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I lost my Soul
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 28, 2017 at 12:30 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 28, 2017 at 12:17 am)Godscreated Wrote:   

Sadly that is your choice. We both can't be right and I'm certain I've made the right choice.

GC

So you are sure men pop out of dirt?

Only one man was made from the dust of the earth directly. The rest of us have mothers.

Brian37 Wrote:You are sure women pop out of a man's rib?

Yes, no doubts.
 
Brian37 Wrote:You are sure that the sun and moon are separate sources of light despite science saying that the photons of the sun bounce off the moon?

God wasn't trying to give a science lesson and the people of the time wouldn't have understood. He did give men brains so that later when we came to understand what was actually happening that we would have understood what and why He stated it in the manner He did. Can't you see that?

Brian37 Wrote:You are sure that Australian Kangaroos swam across several thousands of miles of ocean to get to the Ark?

Are you sure that Australia wasn't connected by a land bridge, or that the one super continent was still together?

Brian37 Wrote:You are sure that despite a limited gene pool after the flood nobody was fucking family members?

 A limited gene pool would have nothing to do with that, your question could be asked about people today, think about it. But to answer your intended question, God did not give a commandment against such marriages until Moses time. I suspect it was because the gene pool was of a purer state and by Moses time the gene pool had become corrupted enough so that God gave the commandment against inter family marriage.
 
Brian37 Wrote:You are sure God ..... proved he was the father of the baby? You are sure that Jesus survived death like Penn and Teller sawed the woman in half?

I'm sure God worked the miracle of the virgin birth, Christ was already the Son before He came to earth to live as a man. Penn and Teller never sawed a woman in half it was an illusion just as you pointed out. Jesus died and was resurrected and in that I have no doubt. Trying to compare the supernatural with the natural is a losing argument for you.
 
Brian37 Wrote:Yep you sound like me when I had a Blockbuster video membership. Went in to rent a movie, spent hours picking one out, got home only to watch it and regretted renting it. I think you are simply stuck in the video store stuck on the shiny packaging and haven't gone back home to stick the video in your player.

 I guess we have all rented a movie we disliked. With that said, I live in a relationship with the living God and I know it's real for many different reasons, of coarse you wouldn't believe they were valid but then God has revealed them to me for me.

GC

(July 28, 2017 at 12:56 am)Astreja Wrote:
(July 28, 2017 at 12:17 am)Godscreated Wrote: Sadly that is your choice. We both can't be right and I'm certain I've made the right choice.

Well, I happen to have science on my side.  Awareness requires brainwave activity within a certain frequency range.  Dead brains do not generate any brainwaves; hence, no thought, no memory, no sensation and no belief.  (To put this in perspective, we don't experience those things in deep, dreamless sleep either.)

Therefore, if your alleged god wanted to punish someone for what they did in their mortal lifetime, it would have to deliberately and with malice of forethought recreate that person's neural network, complete with memories of that person's deeds, solely for the purpose of torturing them forever.  When one considers that it would be just as easy to recreate a heaven-worthy personality, your god is *ahem* without excuse.

I am so sure that heaven and hell are utter bollocks, though, that I actually took a vow to go to hell if for some reason it exists (although I doubt that very, very much).  It's been 10 years since I made that vow and I have no regrets and no fear.

 God doesn't have to recreate those things in those who have chosen hell, those memories reside in the soul and will remain with them forever in hell. Seeing that people choose hell they are responsible for where they spend eternity, God is giving them their choice. If God saved you for heaven against your will you would go screaming and kicking into heaven and that just wouldn't work for many reasons I'm sure scientific mind can reason. As for your last statement above. You will!

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 25, 2017 at 4:01 pm
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 25, 2017 at 7:46 pm
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 26, 2017 at 2:26 am
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 8:15 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 26, 2017 at 11:55 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 12:40 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 7:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - July 26, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 27, 2017 at 3:51 pm
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RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 26, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 26, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2017 at 6:04 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Minimalist - July 26, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 26, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 6:29 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 6:49 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 7:47 am
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 9:34 pm
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 27, 2017 at 12:58 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 28, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 28, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 29, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 2, 2017 at 1:38 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 28, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 12:56 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 1:01 am
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 31, 2017 at 11:22 am
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RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 2, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - August 2, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2017 at 11:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 3, 2017 at 12:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 3, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - August 3, 2017 at 10:29 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 3, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - August 4, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 4, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 4, 2017 at 7:43 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 3, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 2, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - August 3, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 27, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 29, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 26, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by brewer - July 26, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 26, 2017 at 2:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 8:23 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 9:00 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 27, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 29, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - July 26, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 6:06 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Silver - July 26, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 26, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2017 at 8:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Inkfeather132 - July 26, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 27, 2017 at 4:09 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Lek - July 27, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 31, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 31, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - July 31, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 31, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - July 31, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 29, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 29, 2017 at 4:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Silver - July 29, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 30, 2017 at 9:47 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 31, 2017 at 1:34 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Catholic_Lady - July 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 31, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Catholic_Lady - July 31, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 31, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 2, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - August 2, 2017 at 10:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 3, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 3, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 4, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - August 4, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - August 5, 2017 at 4:18 pm

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