(July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Godscreated Wrote:Do I need to go on?
You need to show that the people he was taking to didn't already believe in hell for it to remotely be a counter to what I said. Hell is a great threat against people who already believe in it.
I see you are running out of intelligent responses, you've gone to the ridiculous.
Godscreated Wrote:The Bible is the word of God and is faultless, you put the above statement in just in case I gave you some verses about Jesus and what He says about condemnation to an ever lasting hell.
MisterA Wrote:Did your wire to God tell you to be so uncharitable in speculating about my motives? I don't even know how many times I've read the NT. I'm familiar with what Jesus has to say on the matter, which is why I was confident you wouldn't find an example of Jesus threatening people who don't believe in hell, with hell. Here's the thing about your God connection claim: once you've said the omnipotent and omniscient creator of the universe talks to you, it's reasonable to expect better from you than we've been getting, if we take your claim seriously.
I saw your motive very clearly. Whether they believed in hell or not doesn't even come into the discussion, you are dodging my response because you do not know the scriptures that well.
Godscreated Wrote:Read John 3:16,
2nd Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish.
MisterA Wrote:That has nothing to do with an eternal hell being justified.
Just because you do not like thinking about the possibility of hell doesn't mean hell is not justified. And let's say this also, whether hell is justified or not you can't change the fact it is real and a place all the lost will be. The verses has very thing to do with justification, it's not my fault you can't see the reasoning.
Godscreated Wrote:It's the atheist here who called these people simple minded goat herders that couldn't understand the simplest of things. Are you contradicting them.
GC
MisterA Wrote:I don't know who 'the atheist here' is, but if they actually said that, I am contradicting it. They may not have been able to figure out the moon reflects the sun's light on their own, but they were certainly capable of understanding the concept if it was explained to them.
Almost all the atheists here especially the hard nosed ones. How do you know that they would have understood and even if they would have it doesn't matter because god is more concerned about the eternal destination of people than give a science lesson.[/quote]
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.