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Morality from the ground up
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RE: Morality from the ground up
(August 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(August 2, 2017 at 11:31 am)Astonished Wrote: Non-arbitrary? How about the fact that there are many disorders that can occur from cannibalism of our own species?

Or just the fact that we're the only species capable of discussing this topic and making conscious choices. No other species can really render their opinion.

Obviously, the dietary consideration is not the point.  The point is about how we choose to extend the moral umbrella from self, to family and friends, from community to nation, and then to all humanity, and (for some of us) to animals as well (starting with cute l'il baby seals and ending at mosquitoes-- because FUCK mosquitoes!)

Is there a rational reason why the suffering of one living thing matters less than that of others?  Is not suffering itself bad, and the knowing causing of it wrong?

The experience of a contemplative being, us being the pinnacle (as far as we know) then it's fair to say our capacity for suffering and joy are far greater than that of less sapient organisms, so that is at least a consideration. So if a few lab animals have to die from faulty drugs that will eventually lead to the discovery of a medication that will enable a parent of several young children to live rather than die and leave them and their other parent without them and their support, that's easy to justify because the amount of suffering that would otherwise cause to that family is massive, whereas that animal is not likely to have a family capable of mourning it, at least not when it's reached adulthood. Not to mention that handful of animal deaths can lead to hundreds of saved human lives over future generations. So there's a numbers game component as well.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - July 31, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by ignoramus - August 1, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 1, 2017 at 3:13 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by ignoramus - August 1, 2017 at 3:17 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 1, 2017 at 4:07 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 1, 2017 at 6:18 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by brewer - August 1, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Succubus - August 1, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by LadyForCamus - August 1, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by brewer - August 1, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by LadyForCamus - August 1, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Neo-Scholastic - August 1, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 1, 2017 at 11:38 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Neo-Scholastic - August 2, 2017 at 11:08 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 1, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by ignoramus - August 1, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Amarok - August 1, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 2, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 2:45 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 2, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 2, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Whateverist - August 1, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by brewer - August 2, 2017 at 7:09 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 1, 2017 at 11:21 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 7:01 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 2, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 8:10 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 8:14 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Amarok - August 2, 2017 at 8:17 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 2, 2017 at 9:23 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 2, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 3, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 3, 2017 at 9:35 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 3, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2017 at 8:25 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Angrboda - August 3, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 3, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Angrboda - August 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Angrboda - August 3, 2017 at 3:26 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 12:53 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Court Jester - August 3, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 3, 2017 at 8:42 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by Astonished - August 3, 2017 at 10:24 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 4, 2017 at 12:48 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: Morality from the ground up - by bennyboy - August 4, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Morality from the ground up - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm

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