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Climate Change and ecological collapse
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RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse
(August 3, 2017 at 4:46 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Actually going nuclear would be really easy if we're talking TWR or Molten salt reactor. Just take a look at this two and a half minute video to see what I'm talking about
https://openload.co/f/PeAVa8PcOWU/salt_react.mp4
You say that, but you have to realize that it's not true?  Nuclear -of any kind- faces massive political and fiscal difficulties.  The time it;s going to take people just to climb on board with a good idea is likely longer than the time in which it would make that critical difference.  

Quote:Brazil did it in no time. There all vehicles are flexible-fuel (flex-fuel) vehicles that use both gasoline and ethanol, although their ethanol comes from sugar plants and I'm talking about future in which electricity is clean and cheap enough so that ethanol could be made artificially. It is 19th century chemistry and people could perhaps even have ethanol producing devices in their homes, when the time comes.
"When the time comes" - and we're all still waiting.  

Quote:But we're talking about seeding the oceans with algae that capture carbon.
http://reveal.uky.edu/algae_part1_howitworks
There are easier ways to engage in mass carbon capture, we don't do those either - but we sure do like to talk about them.  

Quote:The worst thing is getting too depressed to do anything about it and even live in denial. It is a good beginning but real clean up will probably come when one day people have fusion, but maybe it could be done before.
Agreed, but I'd put waiting for the magic bullet right up there with inactivity among the worst things.  The reason we refer to things like nuclear reactors is because it's a singular and identifiable dues ex, it;s something somebody else can do somewhere all by their onesies that will solve the problems that we think will effect us and don't -require- that we change this or that.   Honestly, even in the case of magic bullets we would still have to make changes, and we could make massive changes now, down here at the personal level - without needing to get an adminsitration onboard with something that their own ownership interests are bound to fight tooth and nail. There's actyually no reason that we'd have to transition away from fossil fuels at all if we actively sought to make better use of them, and eliminate their use in redundency or where they weren;t required. The single greatest contributor to that waste is the energy we use in our homes. If our homes weren't shoeboxes made of matchsticks, we wouldn;t need to do that. Right behind that is ag, and if we weren't turning oil to food at every level, again.....we'd have solved a portion of the problem -without- needing a nuclear reactor and without needing to seed the ocean with algae and without needing to convert every vehicle to alternative fuels. Hail mary plans, in the current environment. Whereas changing our homes and food production is a simpler issue of consumer habits. It's also something within the grasp of every single human being, now, no need for billions in government funding, or the approval of legislators in the pocket of competing interests. A solar passive design (as simple as an interior masonry facade in your home...which builds value) and buying your food fresh and local will do more to combat climate change than wishing for a molten salt reactor ever could..and we can still wish for a molten salt reactor while we're at it. Showing commitment might even make legislators sweat a little bit and get off their asses on other issues. So long as we all act like C Jesster, even if we talk a different game, they have no impetus to deliver those things and...call me a cynic, we..thusly, no legitimate hope of achieving them.

@Court Jester
"Hur Dur liberals!"  You know...just because people point out that you're an ignorant doubt monkey..doesn't mean that they're in the "enemy" camp...and it's not like it would matter if they were, because what is true of you would be true no matter who brought it to your attention. If you spent a fraction of the time you've spent bullshitting me and searching for other doubt monkeys to confirm your perceptions researching the subject, instead... you might have learned something by now.

LOL, who am I kidding, you wouldn't have learnt shit. Wink
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Messages In This Thread
Climate Change and ecological collapse - by ph445 - July 23, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by tjakey - July 23, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by ph445 - July 23, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by brewer - July 23, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by vorlon13 - August 1, 2017 at 3:45 pm
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by vorlon13 - August 1, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by Succubus - August 2, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by vorlon13 - August 1, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Climate Change and ecological collapse - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 10:23 am

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