RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?
August 5, 2017 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2017 at 11:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 5, 2017 at 3:03 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: Obviously do not realize I never believed or accept the word faith as a Muslim. It was not even a concept in the religion. Faith did not become a word I understood in religious conversation until I became an atheist and I started studying Christianity, as I never paid attention to churches anyways when I was younger.uh....huh.
Quote:Also you just described what I was stating earlier about faith. The fact you did not change your action is what I mean when I say we have faith in things without good reason. Everyone here seems to be adding a lot of religious baggage to the word I never encountered until New-Agers came along. I am also not claiming that everybody exhibits faith in their life or at least not to a great degree.I don't need faith not to change my actions. It simply doesn;t matter whether or not the meteor hits tommorrow or ten million years from now. Today, I have shit to do regardless. No ones "adding baggage" - you're explicitly comparing religious faith to "faith" in some novel sense not attached to religion. Doing so requires that you babble about shit so disparate from each other that using the same word does not explain or clarify the two different things you're talking about - it simply mangles them into befuddlement.
Quote:Whenever you vote you are exhibiting faith considering the likliness of a politician doing as he says is very low. I am an avid voter as well so I know that for every screwhead I choose the odds are not in my favor although I still partake in the act as if my wildest dreams will come true.Obviously not, if believing in god is faith, what I do when I vote is pretty much the exact opposite of that. You can use the same word for both all you like and it won't change that fact. That you have unrealistic fantasies about your vote is your own issue.
Even if I were the only person on earth who was more grounded in their decisionmaking and actions than you, that would still render your claim that we all had faith untrue. What are the odds..do you think, that I;m the only person on earth who doesn't live in fantasyland?
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