If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

[ComradeMeow]

uh....huh.

I don't need faith not to change my actions.  It simply doesn;t matter whether or not the meteor hits tommorrow or ten million years from now.  Today, I have shit to do  regardless.  No ones "adding baggage" - you're explicitly comparing religious faith to "faith" in some novel sense not attached to religion.  Doing so requires that you babble about shit so disparate from each other that using the same word does not explain or clarify the two different things you're talking about - it simply mangles them into befuddlement.

I am not remotely comparing religious faith to the word faith at all. I am merely referring to the word faith and its definition. I am also referring to whether or not a person can exhibit faith in something, that's all. You are adding religious overtones and complications to the word which should be not be a problem to anyone. Whether or not you exhibit faith in certain situations is irregardless since we as people have a tendency on making bad decisions or decisions that don't hold up to the greatest tidbits of reasoning.

On top of this is the fact we show great likings to things that are not reasonable to like. The only difference between religious faith and the regular usage of the word faith is nothing. Religion just requires truck loads of it in certain cases. 

Obviously not, if believing in god is faith, what I do when I vote is pretty much the exact opposite of that.  You can use the same word for both all you like and it won't change that fact.  That you have unrealistic fantasies about your vote is your own issue.

Even if I were the only person on earth who was more grounded in their decisionmaking and actions than you, that would still render your claim that we all had faith untrue.  What are the odds..do you think, that I;m the only person on earth who doesn't live in fantasyland?

I never said believing in god is faith, nor did I say all people have faith because that is a blanketing of the word. It is like saying all people are liars when instead you would say that all people have lied. Essentially everything else you are saying at this point has nothing to do with what I said or anything to do with what I am arguing about.

The only thing I am arguing is that faith is not a religious concept and that anybody can show faith. Everyone here seems hellbent on making a simple word a religious tenet of some sort. Like I said before, faith is not even spoken of as Muslim do not accept unreasonability as a precursor to theism. Islamic tradition had the Mu'tazilahi pounding the concept of reasonable theism into the heads of theologians. This is why Islam is reductionist in its mythology and lacks many claims of miracles. 

Most Muslim do not even believe that miracles can be performed by men and Muhammad's death ended this notion of divine acts. So faith is quite antithetical to Islam although it does not change the fact that Islam is unreasonable and immoral in many cases.

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uh....huh.

I don't need faith not to change my actions.  It simply doesn;t matter whether or not the meteor hits tommorrow or ten million years from now.  Today, I have shit to do  regardless.  No ones "adding baggage" - you're explicitly comparing religious faith to "faith" in some novel sense not attached to religion.  Doing so requires that you babble about shit so disparate from each other that using the same word does not explain or clarify the two different things you're talking about - it simply mangles them into befuddlement.

Obviously not, if believing in god is faith, what I do when I vote is pretty much the exact opposite of that.  You can use the same word for both all you like and it won't change that fact.  That you have unrealistic fantasies about your vote is your own issue.

Even if I were the only person on earth who was more grounded in their decisionmaking and actions than you, that would still render your claim that we all had faith untrue.  What are the odds..do you think, that I;m the only person on earth who doesn't live in fantasyland?

Fu...man, I'm glad I'm not the only one trying to clear up this mess.

Not even a mess you just seem oddly attach to a word that is quite simple.