RE: viewing stolen nude photos
August 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2017 at 3:06 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(August 7, 2017 at 9:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But thats what we are saying. You can use the "if you dont want ______ then don't do ________," for anything. Everything has a certain level of risk, and we have to weigh the level of risk. Recently here, someone just died and 7 others seriously hurt in a fair ride accident. The ride broke apart in motion. Not a single person is saying "wellp, they shouldn't have ridden the ride!" Again, you have to weigh the level of risk. Celebrity or not, there is nothing at all reckless about taking a nude photo of yourself, in your home, with your password secured phone. Just as there is nothing reckless about getting on a carni ride. There is no unreasonable level of risk in doing either of those things, to where you'd be a complete idiot for doing them and deserve what's coming to you. Sometimes shit just happens and you're the unlucky one. Sometimes your house gets broken into. Sometimes your shit gets stolen. Sometimes you get into a freak accident. I dont think what she did was unreasonably risky at all. It was her phone and her secured account. We never imagine our house will get broken into either, but when it does no one says you were stupid for not having MORE security. It is perfectly acceptable to lock your doors and assume youll most likely be ok without getting an alarm system, bullet proof windows, and a safe room. Sure, you can get all those things, and you probably will after you get robbed the first time. But it wasn't at all your failing for not having them in the first place.
Well, I'm saying that a celebrity is at a higher risk of this happening to them, so they should use better security measures. Better than what is available for the common folk, at least.
Picking up on your home security example... I'd say the security measures should be proportional to the assets you're not wanting to share with ill-intentioned people.
You do expect a bank to have a very difficult to break in vault. You don't expect the bank to use a standard wooden door to protect its money.
I'm not saying it's the bank's fault that it gets its money stolen... but the bank should take certain measures to deter or completely prevent such theft from occurring in the first place.
It's the reality we have. It doesn't matter how immoral it is to steal money... it happens and needs adequate security to be prevented.
Sure, the celebrity may be slightly tech ignorant and expect the password protection provided by their phone's software to be enough. But, given the stories that surely float around that crowd, they should know that account hacking happens (mostly through social engineering, than actual brute force password hacks) and thus they should try to invest in securing their assets accordingly.
Ok, I don't disagree with anything you're saying here. Obviously, the smarter and safer you are about any risk, the better... so there's nothing to argue there. I just hate that this always becomes the focal point every time something like this happens to a woman. It always becomes centered around "well, she shouldn't have ______". Yes, she could have been smarter about it, but I still don't think what she did was reckless, and I certainly don't put a single bit of blame on her for this having happened.
(August 7, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(August 7, 2017 at 10:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm sorry. Stereotypes really suck.
Meh, made my peace with it a while back. What strangers think of me is none of my business.
I'd be interested in hearing about the types of struggles men deal with, being men. What type of prejudices/disadvantages yall have to deal with, etc. It isn't a subject that is much talked about, but sexism is sexism regardless who it is directed towards. Maybe I'll start a thread about it.
Let me add to my response to poca:
I start a thread asking if people think it is immoral to view stolen nude photos of jennifer (or anyone) against her will, and the thread primarily becomes about how she should have known better. I mean, that doesn't really answer the question of the thread. The thread subject wasn't "What should Jen have done to prevent this?"
So, unless someone is trying to say that it is ok to look at her photos because it was her fault they were stolen and shared, I don't see why it keeps getting brought up.
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