viewing stolen nude photos

[johan]

You split my post up into two different sections and responded to them as if they were separate thoughts. I wasn't putting words into your mouth, I was expanding on the previous paragraph. It's a pretty common grammar device. 

I split your post up into two different sections because I had comments that were specifically addressing each individual part and doing it that way makes it easier for all involved to understand what exactly I'm responding to. Its a pretty common forum device. Sorry if that offends you. Actually that's a lie, I'm not sorry.

Besides, if you'd re-read the paragraph where you accused me of putting words in your mouth, you'll see that I did nothing of the sort. 

I did re-read it and yeah you did put words in my mouth. You tried to qualify it by saying 'in the human zeitgeist' but you began the post by addressing me and you did not specifically exclude me from your subsequent statements so yeah, its perfectly reasonable to assume they were also directed at me. If you didn't intend those comments to apply to me, then you have my apologies for misunderstanding your lack of clarity.

In response to your characterization of my post, I will say that no, in fact I do not think that since everything carries a level of risk, fuck it and don't worry about it. What I was clearly saying is that just because something has risk, that does not mean that someone can be blamed for bad things that happen. I was saying that a woman should never be blamed---and saying "She knew the risk" is absolutely just as much blaming them as "what was she wearing"---for their sex being stolen from them. 

I don't believe i've ever said that victims deserve to be blamed. Victims are always victims. But my level of compassion for them definitely varies depending on circumstances. If you or anyone else wants to believe that makes me a horrible person, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I believe it makes me human, nothing more nothing less.

And all along I have answered the question---it is still absolutely immoral to take something from someone without their permission. If I steal a car, and then you drive that car around knowing I stole it, you still did something wrong. Just because someone else did the stealing doesn't make it okay for you to take part afterwards.

I totally get what you're saying here, I really do. If you know a crime was committed, and you're complicate in that, it makes you somewhat guilty by default. I totally get that. And there's not much I can really say to defend that to be honest. Although I don't generally search for them, I've most certainly seen stolen photos of nude celebrities and I have to tell you, I don't really feel like I'm all that much of a criminal or any kind of menace to society because of it. I also don't feel like I'm all that much a part of problem itself because of it. 

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if you disagreed with that nor would it surprise me if you had some sort of self righteous comeback at the ready intended to make me and any filfth like me feel like the fifth we really are. But before you dispense that as I'm sure you will, let me ask you something.
If you had a close friend who admitted to you that she willingly bought a fake Gouache handbag or if your best friend showed his nifty new obviously fake Rolex watch, would you turn them in to the authorities? Would you cut off all communication with them immediately? Would you go out of your way to try and make them feel guilty for the horrible things they'd done? And if not, why not? Why would you not do that to them but feel perfectly justified to direct the comments you've made toward me?

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Sheesh. Don't be dense guy, just because I took a picture of my treasure (I haven't) doesn't mean I consent to having it hosted on some shady porn site.

True enough. Perhaps I misspoke when I used the word consent. My bad. Lets fix that. Instead of the word consent, replace it with the phrase willingly accept that you are engaging in an activity which carries a certain amount of known risk. Are we on the same page now?