RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 9, 2017 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2017 at 6:17 pm by rjh4 is back.)
(August 9, 2017 at 5:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No idiot, when it comes to pursuit of scientific fact YES any claim a scientist might make CAN BE independently tested and falsified.Wasn't it you that said evolution (meaning common descent) is a scientific fact? Please tell me how evolution (common descent), something that began in the distant past, can be tested and falsified/confirmed. Evolution (things change) can but not the other. At best, for things that happened in the past, not repeatable in the here and now, one can interpret things in terms or probabilities. That is quite different from what you are talking about.
I wonder...would you agree with the following statement:
There is no absolute truth.
(August 9, 2017 at 6:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:You know the last time I was here, there were some atheists that were actually willing to discuss their positions. I guess that time is gone. Sad.(August 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm)rjh4 is back Wrote: Why don't you man up now and put forward what your presuppositions are? Or are you afraid as it might make you feel uncomfortable for someone else to evaluate your line of thinking? So instead...you put forth nonsense like "Superman is real, OK, go". How does one provide an explanation of where the laws of logic come from with Superman as your presupposition? Etc, Etc. There you go. Now...why don't you look real deep into yourself and explain what yours really are?
You seem too content just to sit immersed with those who agree with you instead of trying to actually understand another point of view. You can say my presuppositions are a non-starter for you and never go through the mental exercise to determine if it is a logically consistent position to see where I am coming from. That is your prerogative. As for me, I like to see how others think as it helps me hone my own position.
My presupposition is that your belief is fantasy and that there is no god.
Superman can provide as much logic as your god, probably more and better.
Demonstrate your logically consistent position. I'm sure that for any god position you put forward I can make the same or very similar position for Superman.
How do you hone your position? Change the fantasy so that it side steps any challenge?