A question about original sin.

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I don't quite agree that man is not accountable for Adam's sin, Adam was mankind's representative so when he sinned we all sinned. Though it is true that man is now completely affected by sin and can do nothing good apart from the grace of God. As to the point about the flood, could you please elaborate? I am not quite following what you are asking on that one.

P.S. Why exactly do you feel the atonement is "idiotic"?

Awe yes, that ole reliable loving and Just god of the bible. One woman eats a pretty fruit off god's favorite tree and 98 billion souls are sent to hell for an eternity, all for the hideous and wicked crime of being born. 98 Billion souls .... and still counting. Now THAT'S justice! Thanks god, I sure do appreciate the way you look out for us. You are one Just deity! Don't burn me ok!

"Hey god's not sending you to hell, YOU'RE sending you to hell!" ....... No wonder they beat the shit outta jesus

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98 Billion? Where does that figure come from?

You pretend like those people didn't commit other sins, I was just pointing out that the concept of original sin is completely just; I assure you that everyone who is sent to hell committed other sins as well as their original sin. By the way, it was Adam's sin that caused the fall, not Eve's.

Adam was mankind's representative so when he sinned we all sinned.

I didn't vote for the fucker. Don't blame me.

That doesn’t matter, if congress declares war on a nation, even if I didn’t vote for those members of congress who voted to declare war I am still at war with that nation because congress represents me. Either way, you wouldn’t have done any better in Adam’s place.

One hitch, you generally tend to elect representatives nowadays, or at least we go through the motions. Well, what's done is done. Perhaps we can lobby the court to modify or amend (if not repeal) their original ruling?
(thx for the qoute Cinjin, I would've missed that gem)

God gives all some form of grace, so the original ruling was rather lenient thanks to Christ’s work for us.

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I don't quite agree that man is not accountable for Adam's sin, Adam was mankind's representative so when he sinned we all sinned.

Which makes no sense at all. It's like you or I being sent to jail because our great granddad stole a car 60 odd years ago. Why should we be punished for something we didn't do? If our justice system was like that, we'd all be in prison! Make sense of that.
Without a doubt one of your relatives from the past must of done something pretty evil at some point. Should I execute you for their crimes? No fair trial, no word you say will be listened too. All you gotta do is apologise for being born and for your age old relatives actions for which you had no control over.

God is an idiot. His system is deeply flawed. A 10 year old could do better.
If this really is the best god can do, I can confidently say, I'm a far superior designer.

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This just misses the point, when we were leveling Berlin in WWII we didn’t take the time to send out a poll to all Germans asking, “Do you agree with the 3rd Reich’s hostilities?” All of Germany was at war with the US because her representatives declared war on the US.