RE: Atheist struggling to answer a question i often propose to myself
August 24, 2017 at 10:15 pm
(August 24, 2017 at 9:17 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(August 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote: To point out some limits to reason is hardly the same thing as concluding the world is not intelligible.
Of course there are epistemological limits to what reason can and cannot reveal. My point is about the efficacy of reason as a tool. i.e. that there are truth preserving forms, such as syllogisms, and inviolate rules of thought, such as the principle of non-contradiction. You cannot rationally prove these are valid, you either recognize them as self-evident and believe they are true or you don't. Similarly, you either believe that the world has a rational order or you don't. No one can prove that it does; the world could be absurd.
Nevertheless, both of these foundational beliefs are fundamental to Christian theism. Believers' reliance on these as absolute principles is repeatedly attacked when atheists dispute the main logical demonstrations for theism, such as First Cause and Necessary Being. And indeed those objections work because the absolute principles on which those demonstrations rest are beyond the epistemological limit. But that kind of victory comes at great cost. In so doing, the skeptics are either denying reason's efficacy and/or asserting absurdity. Both approaches are nihilistic in nature.
The fact that axioms are accepted doesn't not imply that your god is why they are axiomatic. Arguing otherwise is a non sequitur.
Also, the world is absurd ... especially if you regard it as the creation of a beneficent god.