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The Argument From Design
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RE: The Argument From Design
(August 3, 2011 at 2:12 am)Rhythm Wrote:
Quote:Or one can argue that "the fall" caused animals like chiggers to start feeding on human penises.

You know whjat though Ziggy, what with all the other curses mentioned as the effects of the fall, if cock eating chiggers were among them, we'd have read about it. That isn't something the group that wrote the bible is likely to have left out.

Labia chiggers, yeah that might escape mention, penis chiggers, no, that'd be in the black and white.

I was describing how current Christian Creationists generally interpret the effects of "the fall", such as some vegetarian animals (such as the lion or even tyrannosaurus rex ConfusedhockSmile becoming carnivorous. It is a product of a modern mindset which is concerned about the idea of a "just and loving god" allowing so much animal suffering in a creation which was deemed good. However I don't think the writers of Genesis thought that was one of the effects of "the fall". Also allowing huge amounts of animal suffering is consistent with Yahweh's character, who prescribed all sorts of animal cruelty for the atonement of sin. Not to mention wiping out essentially all animals apart from what went into the ark, during the flood (which raises the question, what did they do to deserve such punishment).
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The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 2, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by fr0d0 - August 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by theVOID - August 3, 2011 at 12:37 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Napoléon - August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Gawdzilla - August 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 2, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 12:17 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Gawdzilla - August 7, 2011 at 8:28 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Shell B - August 3, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2011 at 1:43 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Justtristo - August 3, 2011 at 1:55 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2011 at 2:12 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Justtristo - August 3, 2011 at 4:14 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2011 at 2:55 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 3, 2011 at 4:17 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 3, 2011 at 5:28 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Shell B - August 3, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 4, 2011 at 1:35 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 5, 2011 at 5:14 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 6:38 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2011 at 3:35 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Minimalist - August 3, 2011 at 8:16 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2011 at 3:43 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by ElDinero - August 4, 2011 at 11:28 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 5, 2011 at 12:52 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2011 at 1:55 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Minimalist - August 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by popeyespappy - August 5, 2011 at 5:03 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by fr0d0 - August 6, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by downbeatplumb - August 6, 2011 at 8:54 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 8, 2011 at 2:22 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Jackalope - August 9, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Godschild - August 10, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Jackalope - August 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by popeyespappy - August 10, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Faith No More - August 9, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by popeyespappy - August 9, 2011 at 4:50 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2011 at 8:30 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2011 at 9:39 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by fr0d0 - August 6, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Emanuel - August 6, 2011 at 1:26 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2011 at 7:27 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by MinusGod - August 6, 2011 at 9:01 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by TheAtheistTroll - August 7, 2011 at 2:23 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Minimalist - August 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Faith No More - August 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2011 at 8:33 am
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Gawdzilla - August 12, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2011 at 2:15 pm
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RE: The Argument From Design - by Minimalist - August 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2011 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Argument From Design - by Anymouse - August 13, 2011 at 6:18 am
RE: The Argument From Design - by Minimalist - August 12, 2011 at 6:19 pm
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