(September 2, 2017 at 10:23 am)Brian37 Wrote:(September 2, 2017 at 10:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: Anything that help you to progress spiritually speaking is morality.
Anything that take you back spiritually speaking is immorality.
Poppycock.
"Spirituality" is also highly subjective to point of view. Humans in antiquity would get high off of eating or smoking plants and think they were talking to the otherworld. It is a gibberish superstitious word.
People can become rich simply by stealing and say that they are rich.
Of course they are rich, who would disagree with that.
At the same time people can be aware of the spiritual dimension simply by using drugs.
How can we disagree with that also?
That's not the point Brian.
Morality doesn't work like that and if you are not completely dumb you already should have got my message.
Quote:If you feel an intense sense of awe, wonder, comfort or love, that is not "spirituality", that is your BODY releasing chemicals that stimulate a positive mood, in a real evolutionary context, thinking about things that give you comfort can boost your immune system, even if those ideas are completely false.
You can have comfort or a wonderful time by doing so many different things which may have nothing to do with spiritual progress like having sex or eating good food or going holiday or a myriad of other thing.
You probably never thought about it Brian, did you?
Quote:I have no "spirituality". I do have a deep appreciation for a pretty sunset, clear night time sky, when my cat curls up on my lap, but especially the time I had with my mother while she was alive. I have no need to chalk any of those beautiful things up to hollow cliche words rooted in superstition and mythology.
I find reality far more satisfying than dusty old books written by humans who didn't know where the sun went at night.
Most atheists don't really know what they are talking about.
Anyone which lack any sort of spirituality can not possibly be at peace with him-herself and therefore enjoy a pretty sunset or express a genuine smile.
No way.
Have you ever seen a rapist or a murderer have a true, natural and genuine smile?
