RE: What date do you estimate atheism will overtake theism in the world population
September 11, 2017 at 11:19 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2017 at 11:22 pm by Fireball.)
I think that the human propensity for assigning agency to random phenomena is going to be with us for eternity. It has served us well, so far. That said, if people inculcate their young with fantasy instead of reality, the problem of religion will persist. What I call "the problem of religion" is that part of the fantastic expectations of people who may be grasping for help/hope where none is available. Fantastic here means "in a fantasy", not "really great". It extends all the way from people being injured to people dying of old age; i.e., "Please, some external agency, save my loved one from death", and "Please, some external agency, make the time that my loved one is dead pleasant!". A Humanist movement that is recognized as a helping organization would go a long towards mitigating that attitude. The problem is that religious programming demonizes not just non-believers, but people who believe other than that stripe of their faith, and Humanist organizations have to fight that prejudice alongside trying to help, which takes energy from their actions.
I wouldn't call it "atheism wins", so much as I would like to think that humans would shed their superstitious ways and not educate their young in that mold. Like maybe in a million years. Religions pop up like toadstools.
(September 11, 2017 at 10:16 pm)Coveny Wrote:(September 11, 2017 at 6:49 pm)mordant Wrote: I think it's quite premature to declare victory, but ultimate victory is not out of the question.
How long it takes, how it comes about, and how many fits and starts are involved, are all huge unknowns. And there are scenarios where religion wins big-time -- at least for awhile.
It's just hard to accept that dealing in reality is not ultimately a survival advantage. Dealing in reality has got us technology, longer life spans, greater comfort and self determination and the well-being that goes with it, already. Sure, some will cut off their nose to spite their face, but in theory at least they should tend to live shorter, meaner lives.
Then again, all evolution cares about is survival, not enjoyment.
Time will tell.
So in the scenarios where atheism wins what would you say the average time that atheism becomes the majority is?
I wouldn't call it "atheism wins", so much as I would like to think that humans would shed their superstitious ways and not educate their young in that mold. Like maybe in a million years. Religions pop up like toadstools.
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