(September 12, 2017 at 10:38 am)SteveII Wrote:(September 12, 2017 at 9:36 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: You didn't actually answer my questions. Why is one person's anecdotes/stories/hallucinations valid, but not another person's? [1]
(edit to add: what you did do was engage in a lot of special pleading. The very subject of your OP. You have demonstrated well the special pleading necessary to be a christian) [2]
(edit # 2 to add: and you appear to be under the impression that the gospels are written as eye witness accounts of Jesus and his life. You do realize that no one who ever met the guy ever wrote down anything about him, right? [3] There are no contemporary accounts to validate any of the claims made of Yeshua from a Bethlehem or Nazareth, such as: born of a virgin, when he was supposedly born be that Dec 25th or some later date in the Spring, any of his miracles or events surrounding them such as the tombs of the saints emptying when he supposedly was resurrected and a bunch of dead people wandering through Jerusalem. No one ever wrote about those dead people in Jerusalem...not one person. No one. None. Zero. [4] Nothing to independently validate any of those claims. But you still special plead for them?) [5]
1. It is not one person's account. There are 9 writers of the NT and hundreds more people referred to that the addressees know.
2. No, your concept of special pleading is off. I am not applying different standards--I am considering the evidence we have.
3. You are espousing a fringe theory. The evidence can be interpreted just as the authors claimed (which is how we interpret every other historical document). Again, I don't care if you don't believe it or believe another theory. You don't have any proof that it is not what it claims to be. It is a matter of opinion as to what the evidence indicates.
4. How in the world would you know that no document every existed that mentioned these things? The only point you have is that there are no surviving documents. Absence of additional evidence is still not evidence of absence.
5. Since you did not debunk any of my points above, we are still left with evidence to consider. Which means that your charge of special pleading is simply wrong.
Show me even a single contemporary source that validates any of the claims made by the (unknown) authors of the NT.
More special pleading in 3...2...
(Hint: it's clear that some of the NT writings copy one another, indicating that the gospels aren't independent accounts at all)
(You still didn't answer my questions I reposted for you)
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