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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 11:16 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 7:44 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Tested extensively?! Riiiight.  BTW, the "conversation" ended when the first person asked for a believer to show some objective, testable evidence.  Probably centuries ago.  It hasn't changed since.  You assert, we ask.  You assert, we ask.  You assert, we marvel at your gullibility.

Your formatting is horrible by the way.

How about this.

I'm sure many of you are familiar of an event that took place in the bible where the holy spirit took the form of what is describe as tongues of fire that appeared over the heads of the apostles gathered in Jeruselem.

Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. - Acts 2:2-2

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Of course you don't believe that actually happened but what if there is evidence of it?
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Quote:On the night of January 24, 1950, one of the most amazing photographs of all time was taken in the Sam Houston Coliseum, Houston, Texas. As William Branham stood at the podium, a halo of fire appeared above his head. This picture was the only one that turned out on the entire film! George J. Lacy, Investigator of Questioned Documents, and often hired by the FBI in that capacity, subjected the negative to every scientific test available. At a news conference, he stated, “To my knowledge, this is the first time in all the world’s history that a supernatural being has been photographed and scientifically vindicated.” The original of this photograph is kept in the archives of the Religious Department of the Smithsonian Institute, Washington, D.C.


William Branham's account.




This photograph was examined by George J. Lacy, (who worked for the FBI as Investigator of Questioned Documents, and would become the president of The American Society of
  Questioned Document Examiners in 1956)  subjected the negative to every scientific test available.

Photocopy of George J. Lacey's official report and conclusion concerning the tests run on the photograph.



His conclusion,

Quote:Based upon the above described examination and study I am of the definite opinion that the negative submitted for examination, was not retouched nor was it a composite or double exposed negative.
Further, I am of the definite opinion that the light streak appearing above the head in a halo position was caused by the light striking the negative.

Respectfully submitted,

George J. Lacy.

About George J. Lacey
http://www.asqde.org/about/presidents/lacy_g.html
Quote:George Lacy was the fifth president of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners and the last of the 15 men who established the organization to be elected to that office.

Mr. Lacy's first meeting was the 1942 inaugural meeting of the society.  Two years later he married Lucile Peters Lacy who would later become the tenth president of the ASQDE.

During Mr. Lacy's early work in law enforcement he arrested Charles Ponzi, the namesake of the Ponzi Scheme.  He began his career in forensic science as a general criminalist and ballistics expert.  As a ballistics expert, he worked on the Bonnie and Clyde case.  He later specialized in questioned document examination.  He was responsible for establishing the Houston Police Crime Laboratory.  Mr. Lacy maintained a private practice in Houston, Texas for many years.


The American Society of Questioned Document Examiners from Wikipedia:

Quote:The American Society of Questioned Document Examiners is the world's oldest society dedicated to the forensic science of questioned document examination with 144 members worldwide. The current president is James A. Green. The society publishes the Journal of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners twice a year.

Yep, you may win the prize for gullibility.

(September 12, 2017 at 11:48 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 12, 2017 at 11:24 am)Astreja Wrote: A glitch on a piece of film, and you think that's a miracle?

Heeheeheeheehee!

If that's the best the Holy Spook can do, it can get stuffed.

If you actually took the time to read the report his conclusion is that there had to be a light there to strike the negative

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Quote:Based upon the above described examination and study I am of the definite opinion that the negative submitted for examination, was not retouched nor was it a composite or double exposed negative.
Further, I am of the definite opinion that the light streak appearing above the head in a halo position was caused by the light striking the negative.

Respectfully submitted,

George J. Lacy.

*Emphasis mine*

Definite = positive; certain; sure:

so no, not a glitch...
(September 12, 2017 at 11:24 am)Astreja Wrote: As for the "American Society of Questioned Document Examiners," a quick glance at the Wikipedia page of the society's founders reveals that the page itself is being questioned for lack of citations -- and all the other listed presidents' names appear in red, indicating that there is no Wikipedia information at all on them.  Oh, sweet irony...

You know you could have just gone directly to their website, all the information is there Rolleyes

http://www.asqde.org/about/presidents/lacy_g.html

It was caused by light.  So fucking what?
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? - by SteveII - September 11, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? - by Harry Nevis - September 12, 2017 at 2:36 pm

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