RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
September 12, 2017 at 5:41 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2017 at 5:41 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 12, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 11, 2017 at 4:53 pm)SteveII Wrote: Mormons, are you serious? Do you think there is evidence to consider outside Joseph Smith's head?
Jospeh Smith was an eye witness to the miracle of the golden tablets, has second hand testimony from angels, and we have secondary evidence that Joseph Smith was indeed the author of the material -- that's something we don't have for any of the alleged authors of the bible, nobody can verify that 1 Peter was written by Peter. You're treating the evidence of the religion of Mormonism according to a different standard than your own. When Joseph Smith offers eye witness testimony, then it's all in his head. When an anonymous author of the bible offers second hand testimony, why then it's "paleographic gold". That's de facto an example of you special pleading the evidence of Christianity. When you dismiss other religions for reasons that you don't equally apply to your own, that sure as hell is special pleading. A similar argument could be made for Mohammed.
If we played a drinking game based on taking shots every time Steve and Huggy were guilty of special pleading, we'd all be suffering from alcohol poisoning.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.