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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
(September 12, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 11, 2017 at 4:53 pm)SteveII Wrote: Mormons, are you serious? Do you think there is evidence to consider outside Joseph Smith's head?

Jospeh Smith was an eye witness to the miracle of the golden tablets, has second hand testimony from angels, and we have secondary evidence that Joseph Smith was indeed the author of the material -- that's something we don't have for any of the alleged authors of the bible, nobody can verify that 1 Peter was written by Peter.  You're treating the evidence of the religion of Mormonism according to a different standard than your own.  When Joseph Smith offers eye witness testimony, then it's all in his head.  When an anonymous author of the bible offers second hand testimony, why then it's "paleographic gold".  That's de facto an example of you special pleading the evidence of Christianity.  When you dismiss other religions for reasons that you don't equally apply to your own, that sure as hell is special pleading.  A similar argument could be made for Mohammed.

Nailed it, utterly nailed it.

Of course, you run a dreadful risk of successfully shilling for the damned Mormons. And if someone uses the same criteria evaluating 2000 year old Christer evidence and then the Mormonism files, the Mormon side will get the nod, actual witnesses and their statements, many of the witnesses have living descendants that we know of today, and their accounts are in mutual concordance. The folks evaluating the 2000 year old Jesus materials can only dream of finding a trove of materials as well vetted as the Mormon records.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? - by SteveII - September 11, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 12:37 am

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