(September 13, 2017 at 10:19 am)SteveII Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 9:46 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: They are literally the same thing. Joseph Smith makes claims of visions and conversations with God and claims to have been divinely-inspired to write about Jesus. Saul of Tarsus does literally the exact same thing. One is accepted, the other not. Both have the same level, type, and quantity of evidence to back-up their claims (none at all).
So yeah, it is literally a textbook example of special pleading. Thank you for demonstrating it well
Two things wrong with that statement.
1. Paul's letters where on Christian living--not original statements of fact on the life of Jesus or other historical instruction (as Joseph Smith's were full of).
2. Where did Paul claim even his instructions on Christian living were divinely inspired?
Again, the comparisons are not there.
(September 13, 2017 at 10:01 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Steve, what evidence lead you to these two beliefs, and why do you find that evidence persuasive?
The quote you were referring to was about Paul. Even Bart Ehrman firmly believes Paul was real and wrote most of the epistles ascribed to him. He also believes the the NT is 99% today what it was when it was written.
Oh look, more special pleading. What a surprise.

Who founded the Christian church. Jesus or Paul?
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