RE: Very short version of the long argument.
September 13, 2017 at 12:11 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2017 at 12:13 pm by Whateverist.)
(September 13, 2017 at 9:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 8:59 am)Astreja Wrote: I am strongly of the opinion that humans have never seen a real god, but can see plenty of them in their imaginations.
I strongly believe, MK, that your god lives only in your mind and in the minds of believers, and has no connection whatsoever to the origins of the universe.
Nobody saw him "yet"; it can be truthful in this sense. Just like black holes, pulsars and other celestial discoveries.
The belief in such entity comes from knowing the environment well as a first, and making sense of the timeline we live in. At this point, theistic beliefs come racing to provide their versions and explanations of the "truth".
The problem is to start with the concept of God; and not with the design. In other words; it's not humanity that used oil to power it machinery, but it's earth that allowed fossil fuel to be composed out of pressure and bones.
If oil wasn't inflammable, machines would be useless.
But yes, many humans customize God to fit their perspectives.
Are you seriously suggesting that we burn humans for fuel????? Just tell me you're just riffing here and this isn't actually in the Koran.
(September 13, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Unfortunately, no. You can't have a conversation with a person who's speaking in tongues.
You can however put something in his mouth for him to bite on so he doesn't swallow that tongue as you wrestle him into a straightjacket.