RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
September 13, 2017 at 1:59 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2017 at 2:05 pm by Secular Elf.)
(September 11, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(September 11, 2017 at 2:48 pm)SteveII Wrote: The topic is the often repeated charge that somehow Christianity is no different than any other religion and to think it is different is "special pleading". I contend that it is different in that there is more information to weigh than any other religion (by far).
No there isn't, coward. For example Vorlon's citation of mormonism, where we have proof of the founder, his history, his religion's history, everythinghe wrote and quite a lot of what he said. As we have virtually nothing of christianity until well into its second century (and no three word fragments of single pages don't count) you cannot truthfully claim christianity has the same evidentiary basis as mormonism. Hell, even with islam, another religion bsed solely off legend we know most of the major players actually existed and did at least some of the stuff attributed to them. We can say this about exactly none of the founding members of christianity (unless you want to argue it was largely founded at Nicaea).
So your latest baseless assertion fails under even the most dilletantish of scrutinies.
And not only that, an examination of Early Christian History shows that from the very beginning they did not agree on the substance of who Jesus was. The diversity of Christian theology was even more intense in the 1st and 2nd Centuries CE than even now. A sect of Judaism, divided among Ebionites, Nazarenes, and Elkasites, each of whom had different versions (Christologies) of Jesus based on their theology (Docetism, Adoptionists, and Gnosticism). It was the Proto-orthodox view, championed by Paul the Apostle, gained wider adherence throughout the Roman Empire as they gained more influence with the imperial throne, you know, Constantine and the Council of Nicaea, the oppression of Pagans, and all that. You Christians really have a nasty habit of weeding out opposing views and killing them off. Does not help your cause one little bit.
(September 11, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(September 11, 2017 at 3:42 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: I'm giving this the answer it deserves...
Just as I thought...
It's funny how you guys shut up the moment anything resembling evidence is is actually produced...
Since you refuse to respond, you forfeit the privilege of requesting that any theist produce evidence from now on.
The all powerful Judeo-Christian god, the ancient Canaanite war god, the supposed creator of the universe, did not lift one finger to save nine people in a church, IN A CHURCH, HIS CHURCH, from a white racist asshole. There is some evidence for you. What is one to think? Either this supposed being does not exist, or it is a monster, or a racist, or both.
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