(September 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Cyberman Wrote: We don't need fire or steam engines. That's not what I was saying. All living organisms, including humans, metabolise their own energy from the food they ingest and the insolation of the Sun's radiation. No consciousness required.
That's on the biological level that we need. But the conscious needs which are produced by our "moods", thoughts, dreams are the difference. Here is where fire and engines differ as unique productions of humanity, other biological forms don't have to "cook" or "use a torch to see in the dark". I don't even think they can make sense of "fast" and "slow", thus never needing an engine.
This is going way off the point I was clarifying.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'