RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
September 14, 2017 at 9:09 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2017 at 9:15 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(September 14, 2017 at 4:34 pm)SteveII Wrote: You were close enough up to the point of 390. Most scholars (including Bart Ehrman) believe the books are 99% as they were originally. They also agree the 1% difference does not change any important textual meaning.
Do you think that people did not live into their 70s and 80s in the first century? John is thought to have been in his mid-90s.
I mean...sure? I've no idea what the average life span was in the first century but, "we don't know that the Gospel writers couldn't have known Jesus," is not evidence supporting that any of them did. Do you think such speculation advances your case for the truth of the NT claims of Jesus?
Quote:For there to be special pleading, you need the circumstances to be the same (or similar) and treat them differently.
Quote: Do you imagine that all the authors, all the surviving text making claims about public events-
A claim about a public event is just that. A claim. We have zero external corroboration for these supernatural claims, and after two thousand years I wouldn't even consider them claims anymore. They're stories. This is why we tell you that the Bible IS the claim, not the evidence.
Quote:-existing churches before any of the writings are similar to one person's claims of what happened to him when he was all by himself?
So a bunch of people made supernatural claims and birthed a religion two thousand years prior to Joseph Smith doing the exact same thing, but since your cult came first and contained more claimants, that makes it somehow categorically different? The total number of people telling a story has no bearing whatsoever on its truth.
Quote:If you think this is similar, your bias and/or intellectual honesty is so far out of whack there is no sense in continuing debating this issue.
If you think two thousand year old, unverifiable hearsay regarding supernatural claims is in some way special, or more legitimate than the supernatural claims of one man who we at least know for a fact existed, then the bias is yours. And the pleading is...ya know...special. 😉
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