RE: Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading?
September 18, 2017 at 10:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2017 at 10:24 am by KevinM1.)
(September 18, 2017 at 8:10 am)SteveII Wrote:(September 17, 2017 at 5:08 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "Multiple assertions of the same fact is verification."
Millions of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Yet, no one actually believes he removed it from our plane of existence. Multiple people can testify to some event, and still be wrong. How can you not grasp this basic idea?
Of course multiple people can testify to the same event and still be wrong. So, I grasp the basic idea. Until you find an example of something that has the kind of context I listed in my a through k points, they are irrelevant--apples and oranges.
(September 17, 2017 at 6:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: "Multiple assertions of the same fact is verification."
Steve is smart enough to know this statement is patently false. He would never let that fly going the other way around. He's desperately trying to breathe life into an argument that was more or less DOA. Old Billy Lane Craig would be proud.
You and your definitions. Verification is not an exact synonym for proof. I highlighted the relevant words:
ver·i·fi·ca·tion
ˌverəfəˈkāSH(ə)n/
noun
- the process of establishing the truth, accuracy, or validity of something.
"the verification of official documents"
synonyms:
confirmation, substantiation, proof, corroboration, support, attestation, validation, authentication, endorsement
"they may require further verification"
Third synonym, Steve... LMFAO
And no, Steve, it's not apples and oranges just because it torpedoes your argument. It's your job to meet the burden of proof. Everything in your argument hinges on the supernatural aspects of the story being true. Appeals to testimony and popularity don't lend truth to supernatural claims. It's just a distraction from the main problem you have - there's no way to prove the parts that make Jesus special actually happened. There's a million and one reasons to believe they didn't happen (physics, biology, how much his story comports to those of other myths, lack of independent, unbiased 3rd party accounts of these miracles, etc) and not one good reason to believe any of it is true, despite your desperate contortions.
Again, people believe things that aren't true all the time. In your eyes, Islam is likely full of such people. Guess what? You're no different. Also: Santa isn't real.