(September 18, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(September 18, 2017 at 4:56 pm)SteveII Wrote: I don't know if it happened. I doubt because of 1) the lack of context of every other miracle ever performed (they had a specific purpose), 2) there are some rebuttal witnesses that said no, it did not happen, and 3) there was nothing on the line when people said "I saw it"--it did necessitate a call to action or any required change of belief.
Because of course, 1000's of people that can be interviewed moments after an event, are no where near as reliable as, 500 anonymous people, whose stories are not recorded for decades or more after the alleged events.
Move those stories 1800 years in the past, and somehow they become even more reliable.![]()
That is a textbook example of special pleading. What is the title of this thread again?
Intellectual honesty is not quite your thing, is it Steve?
If you have an issue with what Steve is saying, perhaps it would be better to let him speak for himself. Straw manning, and poisoning the well are not exactly intellectual qualities either.
This is why with many atheist you need to keep things simple, on a very narrow topic, and it's difficult to have a discussion at all.
Rhetoric and sophism, are the norm, and they will overload you in all directions and inconsistencies, and then argue against not what you say.... but some distortion of it.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther