(September 19, 2017 at 10:50 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(September 19, 2017 at 9:57 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don't know how else to say it to you RR. To ask your interlocutors to 'assume for the sake of the argument that there is evidence for my religion' so that you can say, 'therefore, it's not special pleading because my religion has evidence,' is entirely circular. He's failed to make a case for excusing Christianity from special pleading, which is what he set out to do.
With this reasoning, anyone would be equally valid in saying that you are special pleading, merely on the basis of disagreement. You demanding that your interlocutors deny testimony as evidence is special pleading. And thus the whole claim is subjective.
If you look at the definition for special pleading [here]
You will see that special pleading involves a person asserting a standard or principle, and then making an exemption to that standard without adequate justification for that exemption. Not that you assert the standard, and they disagree with it.
This is also, why I have sought to go back to basics about what is evidence and similar posts, rather than talking about specifics based on the principles. And this (combined with lack of time, and overall being tired) is why I was ignoring your question about the quality of the testimony in the scriptures. Because in the end, you can just dismiss it anyway, and go back to testimony is not evidence.
Same problem with every follower of every religion. NO EVIDENCE!
We cant dumb it down any further for you.
"Because I say so" is not an argument.
There is only ONE method that is universal in settling disputes between competing claims and that is scientific method.
This is just blather on your part, word salad, and mental masturbation. Now, get it in a lab, get it tested and falsified and independently peer reviewed then you can get a patent and a Nobel Prize. None of what you or Steve have posted constitutes neutral scientifically proven evidence. We are not being unfair to either of you, our argument would be the same no matter whom or the religion they claim.
We've seen the same tactics from all the world's major religion's followers. When they cant con someone with holy writing, they try to debunk science, when they cant debunk science they try to get it to point to their club. Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists pull this crap too. It does not work when you or Steve or anyone of any religion does it.
You have a claim you like, so what, get in line, take a number.