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August 5, 2011 at 4:46 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2011 at 4:51 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(August 5, 2011 at 4:18 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:
Jesus' accuracy on the human condition says nothing about his divinity. One only needs to spend a day out in the world to recognize the flaws of our species so the ability to notice this is not anything out of the ordinary. I take the Thomas Jefferson approach to Jesus' teachings and believe once you weed out the religious aspect it is a good model for life. Although I think that Buddhism presents a better model for spiritual growth.
The fact that Jesus is worshipped as he is, however, is more indicative of the human need for guidance through life by someone they believe understands life on a deeper level.
He did more than just notice the human condition though; he knew things about people that he should have never been able to know. He knew their darkest secrets at the moment of first meeting them. I don't believe Jesus is worshipped as merely a great teacher though, but rather as the son of God and God in person.
Are there other religions that describe human nature the way scripture does? I am not aware of any actually, if you know of any fill me in.
(August 5, 2011 at 4:22 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(August 5, 2011 at 3:53 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Do you believe the majority of scientists today believe in Natural Selection? Uh oh! Be careful :-P
I'm expecting the general ignorance buzzer to go off.
But yeah.
Now prove me wrong
No, I am sorry, but according to Rhythm you have to prove this. So please quote an actual majority of scientists (a number in the tens of thousands no doubt) that explicitly state they believe in natural selection. If you have a problem with this absurd demand then take it up with Rhythm because he is the one who first asked for it.
(August 5, 2011 at 4:33 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(August 5, 2011 at 3:53 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: However, I feel that human nature is strong evidence to support scripture. Jesus described the human condition perfectly. If he had said that humans were naturally good creatures who just wanted to get along and do things for others I may be a bit skeptical.
If the tulip tunip had thought his Jesus really said humans were naturally good creatures who just wanted to get along and do things for others, then the tulip would have simply sprouted the opposite: "Jesus described the human condition perfectly, If he had said that humans were naturally evil creatures who needed saving I may be a bit skeptical."
For him, it is the conclusion first, then any bullshit he can string together that appears to him to lead to the conclusion afterwards.
God is true, therefore all evidence could not possible fail to prove, it's only a matter of concocting a story about how. If he thinks god said "I bequeath thee fart", He would argue the fact that human being may uncontrollably fart proves god. If he thinks god said "farting is wicked", he would argue the existence of social convention is against farting in public proves god.
He is worthless shit best left to be viewed as a rather sordid spectacle than to be talked to.
Here we are having an interesting conversation about the human condition and you come in and start trying to prove your point with farts? Are you for real? How old are you? :-)
