RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
September 30, 2017 at 10:24 am
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2017 at 10:32 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 29, 2017 at 7:10 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote:Excellent, then use my remarks as a means of improving the message? Making contradictory proclamations -is- speaking nonsense. Rather than complain about the recipient recognizing nonsense, perhaps you should find some other..less nonsensical way to communicate whatever it is you're trying to say?(September 29, 2017 at 7:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: This statement is inconsistent with your previous contention that there could be emotional good, and good of thought. If they are separate things, and can exist independent and even in contradiction with each other....then good without positive emotion is not only a possibility, but a an inevitability.
Amusingly, examples are easy to find. I know it's good to flush the toilet, but doing it doesn't make me euphoric. You manage to contradict yourself and reality in a single breath. Bravo.
Then read my recent posts to know what I mean here. I first had a conversation where I said that positive emotions really are the only good and that we can't have good thoughts and that situations can't be good. I then later said that there is good without positive emotions, but that it would be like the words at the entrance to a club being shut down (i.e. "dead"). It would be a no quality standard of goodness in your life. I am still in the process of trying to work out this whole worldview so that it is clear to others. So, don't just jump to the conclusion that I am speaking nonsense, making contradictions, and then end your discussion with me.
You still haven't given anyone a reason to think that emotions and thoughts are separate categories in the first place, and you're asserting that while there may be more than one kind of good, one of the kinds of good is somehow uniformly gooder than the other kind of good. So much sop, that it makes no sense to call them both good, and that only your selected good truly qualifies for the moniker.
Is this your emotional value judgement, or a thoughtful appraisal? Does the satisfaction that a sex offender feels count as an emotional good? Is it a "gooder good" than, say, knowing that sex offense is wrong?
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