(October 4, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(October 4, 2017 at 2:07 pm)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I think we can start here with this question. If you were to have no euphoria such as due to a stressful life event or emotional trauma and you believed that things and moments in your life were still good and beautiful, then what would that be like for you?How should I know?
Quote: You might say that it is like something good and beautiful since it is the words "good" and "beautiful" being believed in your mind in regards to those things, situations, and moments. But I am asking you to look beyond those words. There should be a form of goodness and beauty there that transcends words. It would literally be the most powerful and profound state of being and living you could be in. From my perspective, that state would be our euphoria.Why should there be, and if there should be..does that mean that there is? I think that my wife's nipples should dispense chilled whiskey. I can go check if you like..but last I recall they don't.
Quote:However, I am asking you if there is any goodness and beauty beyond those words going through your mind during those moments. If there is none there, then I can honestly conclude that your life has no real good value and beauty at all.You can't honestly conclude anything about the value or beauty of my life. Full stop.
Quote:For example, a blind person can think of colors and he could tell you what that was like for him. He could tell you that it was like red, blue, and green for him. But these would just be words. There is a form of red, green, and blue that goes beyond words and that would, again, be him visualizing those colors.If you say so, but so what? / shugs
Quote:So, what I am asking you here is if you are able to "visualize," so to speak, the good value and beauty in your life during moments where you are completely miserable and/or don't have your euphoria.You mean, can I be happy when things are shitty? Sure. Can I be miserable when things are good? Yup. Can I be completely emotionally unresponsive to either? Yeah...that too.
You see, I live my life by a standard of good value and beauty that transcends words. If this standard does not get met, then my life is completely empty. That is why I reach the conclusion that our euphoria are truly the only real way we can perceive good value regardless of the moral implications.