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Irony
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RE: Irony
(October 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(October 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's just like using a mobile. Are you accusing modern humans of talking to blocks of plastic?
Oh, it's just like that is it?  You text him, he texts you.  Every once in awhile there's a message on your voicemail.  You take a call and chat with him about lunch.  How long do you plan on selling this lie?
I'm comparing wireless communication to a heavenly one. Back in the past; people couldn't even imagine that their grandchildren will talk to other humans across the globe. Saying that it's "possible" meant that the person behind the claim will be a joke; or in some ancient societies: a Kebab on a stake.
But surprisingly, humanity literally saw that this is so possible; and the "shame of the past" became the "stuff you pay lots of money for in universities".
It's not a lie; but it's the simple separation in paths: it is proved -even scientifically- that we have no idea about what is out there beyond space; there is a beyond and we proved it; so either:
1-I believe something is out there; and it made things the way they are
2-I don't believe something is out there
Not a lie; K.
A simple choice. Look for lies in the acts of those who use the above to gain profit. But even aliens are believable now with all the discoveries taking place.
Quote:Can you..do you believe that the iphone is the author of the cosmos...or....?

No !

When the phone "rings"; and you "pick it up"; a neanderthal would look at you and think that you are the crazy "man" talking to blocks of plastic !!

Quote:You're clearly compelled to provide a list of lies the religious sell........though I don't think that you gave as much effort to the last five as you did the first two.

How?

Quote:1-Salvation is guaranteed if you "listen to the institution they represent; because their institution=God's servants on earth".
2-That they have ID cards that logs them into "paradise".
3-They always kill you if you convert to other faiths; or in other cases harass you.
4-They always sell people "imaginary keys" to forgiveness; from the Christian "confession" rooms to the "Islamic Sunni/Shiite martyrdom".
5-All the above is "written as a fact" in many of the books that "these religious people believe". That's the big nasty lie. 

1-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531

2-
https://islamqa.info/en/96531
(Same link)

3-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

4-
https://sunnah.com/riyadussaliheen/20

5-I brought links from the official books of Sunnies. Believe me; you don't wanna read what I read from Shiites books too in Arabic.

I know too that the Bible is full of similar stuff. Of course; the Quran has nothing related.
Not lies; K. Just research probably.
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Messages In This Thread
Irony - by Der/die AtheistIn - September 30, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 1, 2017 at 9:12 pm
RE: Irony - by Minimalist - October 1, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Irony - by Fireball - October 1, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Der/die AtheistIn - October 2, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Irony - by Brian37 - October 2, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 2, 2017 at 9:40 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Irony - by Simon Moon - October 4, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 9:51 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 4, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:15 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 8:19 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 10:49 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 11:45 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Irony - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:50 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 4, 2017 at 11:46 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 4, 2017 at 11:57 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 2:35 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 1:48 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 5, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: Irony - by SaStrike - October 5, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Irony - by Cyberman - October 5, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 5, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 6, 2017 at 3:34 am
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Irony - by WinterHold - October 6, 2017 at 11:16 pm
RE: Irony - by Astonished - October 6, 2017 at 11:24 pm

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