Belief?

[Edwardo Piet]

Did religion grow up because of a desire to believe or was it the other way around and, does anyone here have any beliefs for which there is no evidence and may never be?

I think the desire to believe almost certainly predates religion because I think religion is a by-product of faith and then religion futher supports that faith. I myself don't have any claims based on faith (that I know of). I believe that just as evidence can't support faith; you can't have faith in evidence because evidence is self evident, it doesn't need faith.

I thought after first reading TGD about asking Dawkins "You say you have no faith, but since you believe evidence is the path to follow because it supports science, do you have faith in evidence?".

I don't think I'd bother asking that now because I think he would sort of explain that he has belief in evidence not faith in evidence, and that evidence is self evident, he has trust or belief in it, not faith. Probably something like I mentioned above. That's atleast how I see it now anyway.