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A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
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A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
I think a pair of concepts that can illuminate the processes that go into people’s acquiring and defending their religious beliefs are the scientific concepts of “context of discovery” (how a scientist originally came up with a theory) and the “context of justification” (how the developed theory is defended in the scientific  community).   Theories have all kinds of origins – rational observations, gut feelings, lucky breaks in the lab, pervious theories, discussions with other scientists, etc.  One can often never be able to put a finger on an actual, specific, definable origin.  A theory can “pop into one’s mind” or it can develop over long periods of time.  The context of justification, on the other hand, is a deliberately thought out, carefully worded, logical explanation of why the theory makes sense, and purposefully presented in a way that invites criticism.

If we translated this into the context of religious belief we’d get something like this - “context of discovery” (how one acquires one’s religious belief) and “context of justification” (the rational arguments one uses to defend that belief when challenged).  Just as in the scientific version, the actual defense can be significantly different that the experiences that lead to the belief, so in religion the various events, influences, social contexts and such can vary significantly from rational arguments defending that belief, such as “proofs” that Biblical stories have historical backgrounds, attempts to use events cited later in the Bible as being foretold by earlier texts, etc.

Here’s where I think it gets interesting.  In the scientific world, NO ONE REALLY CARES how you came up with your theory (context of discovery), and it plays NO PART WHATSOEVER in whether it is accepted by other scientists.  Every scientists knows the sloppy, messy context of discovery and acknowledges it happens, but they know it’s totally irrelevant.   No scientist ever says – “Sure your theory is logically flawless, but we don’t like the way you came up with it!”  In many, if not most cases, the origin is totally forgotten, and the proof becomes the “living” aspect of the theory. 

In the context of religion, on the other hand, it is the “context of discovery” that gives the REAL power to belief.  Religious people don’t spend their time logically defending their belief, much less inviting criticism.  What do they do?  Engage in personal and social re-enforcement – reading (and re-reading and re-reading and re-reading texts), group prayer, group singing, social gatherings, nebulous (but emotionally VERY powerful) appeals to “faith,” sense of belonging, personal and social support, etc.  Active participation in a religious culture is essentially A CONTINUAL, NEVER-ENDING CONTEXT OF DISCOVERY. 


The “context of justification” only comes into play (if ever!) when a non-believer points out logical problems with the belief system.  So when atheists pull their hair out in frustration over religious people who just can’t seem to appreciate theory logical proofs that the religion is bunk, they are not realizing that these arguments, ideas, etc. PLAY NO PART WHATSOEVER in the person’s actual belief – because the “belief” is not based on a set of logical arguments – it is a living, flowing, emotionally charged personal and social world.

If this make sense, then I think it also makes sense that when a person DOES “fall away” from religion, it is either because the ongoing “context of discover” is either does not satisfy the persons emotional and social needs (or, perhaps more likely, their needs are not powerful enough in the first place), or it is a rare person whose logical thinking really can overpower the ongoing “context of discovery.”

I’m not presenting this as some kind of sociological theory, but simply as a way I’ve come to try and understand the nature of religious belief.


Any thoughts?
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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
As a boy, I lived overseas, and due to an absence of Baptist churches attended services from various other denominations. Hearing how they all had different criteria for salvation (works vs faith, confessional vs personal prayer for expiation, and so on), and how they all claimed to have The Truth about the God I believed in, started the erosion of my own faith.

In your terms, I essentially restarted the context of discovery several times, and saw how it led to different results from my original faith.

Seems like a decent lens through which we might view the phenomenon of faith and its upholding.

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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
Nice post Smile

Yes, I've noticed a lot of emphasis put on anecdotes, especially ones in which changes come about once the belief starts being held. These changes (which are easily explained in other ways, if they are true at all) are presented as evidence, rather than giving evidence for the actual belief itself.

And like you say, in science, it doesn't matter if something came to me in a dream or if the hypothesis was formed out of randomly falling scrabble tiles. Nor does it matter how I act once I start believing the hypothesis.
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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
I agree. If they want to live within the context discovery of a fantasy delusion and limit it to like minded individuals I have no problem with that. That discovery comes mostly from brain washing the young. 

The problem is that they don't limit their views and actions to the individuals within the group. Like a cult (at least christians/muslims, probably others) they try to reach out and convert. Plus, they try to make the rest of society play by their very limited rules. That is when the rest of us hear their rationalizations and justifications, that only make sense in the context of their religion. If they happen to be in the majority with in the society the minority then suffers. Sometimes it allows them to justify killing.
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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
(August 14, 2016 at 11:00 am)robvalue Wrote: Nice post Smile

Yes, I've noticed a lot of emphasis put on anecdotes, especially ones in which changes come about once the belief starts being held. These changes (which are easily explained in other ways, if they are true at all) are presented as evidence, rather than giving evidence for the actual belief itself.

And like you say, in science, it doesn't matter if something came to me in a dream or if the hypothesis was formed out of randomly falling scrabble tiles. Nor does it matter how I act once I start believing the hypothesis.

But how you act after believing the hypothesis of Christianity is supposed to be the result of believing the correct hypothesis. That there is a tangible effect which reflects the validity of the belief.

Now that I think about it, do Christians believe the change occurs because God starts to intervene in the person's life, or is the change simply a reflection of embracing what is true and good, just as adopting exercise leads to good health? I don't know the answer to that one.
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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
I don't know. But you only have to believe it is true to have those effects, it doesn't matter whether it's actually true. They are all easily explainable psychological effects.
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RE: A loose “theory” of the dynamics of religious belief
(August 14, 2016 at 11:00 am)robvalue Wrote: Yes, I've noticed a lot of emphasis put on anecdotes, especially ones in which changes come about once the belief starts being held. These changes (which are easily explained in other ways, if they are true at all) are presented as evidence, rather than giving evidence for the actual belief itself.

Yeah - we all know how undependable anecdotes are - ESPECIALLY when they are self-reporting self improvement.  "I found the Lord and my life turned around!"  And, of course, there are the usual fallacy culprits.  Perhaps one of my favorite examples - someone did a study of people visiting Notre Dame to get "healed," and it turned out more people got sick, injured, or died traveling there and back than got "healed" by going there!  Also, how can anyone know (short of having a Miracle-o-Meter) whether they got "healed," or, as often happens - this has actually happened to me on numerous occasions - they just got better!
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