RE: I still don't understand why anyone would make up a person like the Biblical Christ..
August 9, 2011 at 2:36 am
Well I'm new to this thread and I haven't read through it all yet (I will later when I'm not about to go to sleep), so I'll just address the first post of the OP and start from there.
What prophecies have been fulfilled from the old testament are you specifically talking about?
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here exactly. Could you be more clear?
Jesus isn't actually too different from many other mythological beings in history. For example Horus, Osiris, Krishna, Dionysus, and Jesus Christ all share the same birthday of December 25th.
Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Dionysus, Osiris, and Jesus all performed miracles.
Horus even walked on water, just like Jesus and just like Jesus raised a man from the dead in front of many witnesses.
Buddah, who like Jesus was said to cure lepers and caused the blind to regain their sight.
Dionysus, like Jesus, was also able t o turn water to wine.
Jesus like these other mythological characters has no evidence to suggest he even existed, except of course with regards to the bible - where as far as we know, the story of Jesus supposedly originated.
The bible then isn't really any evidence at all. Why should you or I take anything the bible has to say seriously? Why is Jesus more deserving of special treatment than these other mythological characters?
(August 6, 2011 at 9:41 pm)dave4shmups Wrote: First of all, what about all the fulfilled prophecies from the Old Testament? If we, as skeptics contend, do not really know who wrote the books of the Bible, then how do we know that they "fit in" the prophecies from the Old Testament that were about Christ, to the New Testament?
What prophecies have been fulfilled from the old testament are you specifically talking about?
dave4shmups Wrote:Secondly, why not make up a messianic figure who would be a politlcal/military deliverer from Rome-which, AFIK, is what the Jews of the time expected the messiah to be. Then we would know that the NT (and the rest of the Bible) to be nonsense. But that is not what we find-we find someone who spoke to a Samaritan woman-when Samaritan's were considered racial half-breeds by the Jews, and a woman's testimony was not considered valid in court at the time.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here exactly. Could you be more clear?
dave4shmups Wrote:With all due respect to everyone on this site, why would any of this be made up???
Jesus isn't actually too different from many other mythological beings in history. For example Horus, Osiris, Krishna, Dionysus, and Jesus Christ all share the same birthday of December 25th.
Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Dionysus, Osiris, and Jesus all performed miracles.
Horus even walked on water, just like Jesus and just like Jesus raised a man from the dead in front of many witnesses.
Buddah, who like Jesus was said to cure lepers and caused the blind to regain their sight.
Dionysus, like Jesus, was also able t o turn water to wine.
Jesus like these other mythological characters has no evidence to suggest he even existed, except of course with regards to the bible - where as far as we know, the story of Jesus supposedly originated.
The bible then isn't really any evidence at all. Why should you or I take anything the bible has to say seriously? Why is Jesus more deserving of special treatment than these other mythological characters?
