RE: Why atheism is important, and why religion is dangerous
October 14, 2017 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 9:12 pm by causal code.)
(October 14, 2017 at 7:44 pm)mordant Wrote:(October 14, 2017 at 6:49 pm)causal code Wrote: I'm glad that you finally retracted your old response "Atheism actually isn't important." (as we can see here in your reply #8)Well if you have that much of a need to be right, you can think I've "retracted" or that you "corrected" but I think you simply misunderstood my original post:
I guess we prefer or like to hear corrections from our friends, instead of strangers.
Quote:Atheism actually isn't important. It's a belief position on a very limited topic.I fail to see anything different between that statement and my remarks above, other than that I gave a little more detailed explanation the second time around. Atheism is a concept that is useful for an artificial reason but has no inherent utility, any more than aphilatelism has any utility to describe not collecting stamps. On the other hand, aphilatelism WOULD be useful if stamp collecting were imposed by an entrenched majority that strictly forbade any discussion of the merits of stamp collecting and threatened people with eternal punishment for rejecting the hobby.
It's necessary only because of the historic hegemony of religious thinking.
Unless my English is broken, there is a difference between expanding on an answer, and changing the meaning of an answer from no to yes.
My original post:
"Atheism is important"
Your first answer was:
"Atheism actually isn't important, due to the historical hegemony of religious thinking".
A question I later asked, that probably made you rethink your initial answer: "
How how can critical thinking alone be important, i.e. how can atheism be irrelevant, when we see specifically, that theists do critical thinking (i.e. science) all the time, except when it comes to fictitious sky characters????
Your second answer then suddenly essentially became:
Paraphrase: "Atheism is important now".
Your actual words: "Well someday hopefully we'll have a world in which religion isn't dominant or even prevalent, in which case atheism will not be a useful or relevant concept")
All and all, it is good that you have come to retract your original answer.
...but trying to pretend as if "atheism is not actually important" and "atheism is important now" are two equivalent phrases, is not fooling anybody.
Notably, I had already mentioned something about atheism being pertinent particularly in our religious world, before my question above, and before your second answer above. So, if you agreed to the OP or the previous quote before this sentence, why would you have bothered to post something like "Atheism actually isn't important"?