RE: Real russian colusion
October 20, 2017 at 8:50 am
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2017 at 9:14 am by Drich.)
(October 19, 2017 at 11:42 am)Khemikal Wrote: Old Fake News. The story was debunked before it ever ran, got debunked after it ran, and is now being regurgitated by trump and his trumpkins to deflect from trump and his trumpkins being a bunch of a sad losers who can't get right.
Actually this is based off of FBI documents obtained by independent journalists that show money being tracked fro russia to the Clinton and obama squashing the investigation. While the allegations are old 2010 we have proof now. Both Trump and Hannity go into deeper detail about this story, because faker newers wont even pick it up
(October 19, 2017 at 11:45 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'll just speak to the 'uranium sale' since I know a bit about that topic. No uranium was sold to Russia. A Russian company bought a Canadian company that mines uranium. The Russians don't get the uranium that company mines, they get some of the profits. Because the company being bought is involved in uranium mining, the acquisition of 51% of the Canadian/South African company's shares required approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (because the company owns uranium mines in the USA), and the US Secretary of State is on that committee. Clinton was just one member of that committee with no veto power, so she did not have the power to alone approve or deny the sale. The Secretary of the Treasury (Timothy Geithner) was the chairperson, not Clinton. The committee evaluates foreign investment with possible national security issues, and turns the findings over to the president, the committee itself can't approve or disapprove a deal. According to the State Dept. representative who stood for her in the committee, Clinton never interfered with committee decisions.
So the Russians didn't get any uranium and the decision wasn't Clinton's to make. I assume the rest of your information is equally accurate.
apparently you do not know as much about the sale of uranium as you were boasting about.. Either that or the NYtimes got it wrong:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca...mpany.html
right there in the title it explicitly states that russian pressed for control of this uranium 1 and opened the flood gates of money to the clintons (then sectary of state who indeed have final say on the matter.
The next article goes into some more detail about the new evidence and clinton's role/responsibility in this deal as secretary of state.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...-deal.html
(October 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm)wallym Wrote:how did I over state? i said clinton received over 1,000,000 dollars when in fact it was 145 million... that would be an understatement sport.(October 19, 2017 at 11:45 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'll just speak to the 'uranium sale' since I know a bit about that topic. No uranium was sold to Russia. A Russian company bought a Canadian company that mines uranium. The Russians don't get the uranium that company mines, they get some of the profits. Because the company being bought is involved in uranium mining, the acquisition of 51% of the Canadian/South African company's shares required approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (because the company owns uranium mines in the USA), and the US Secretary of State is on that committee. Clinton was just one member of that committee with no veto power, so she did not have the power to alone approve or deny the sale. The Secretary of the Treasury (Timothy Geithner) was the chairperson, not Clinton. The committee evaluates foreign investment with possible national security issues, and turns the findings over to the president, the committee itself can't approve or disapprove a deal. According to the State Dept. representative who stood for her in the committee, Clinton never interfered with committee decisions.
So the Russians didn't get any uranium and the decision wasn't Clinton's to make. I assume the rest of your information is equally accurate.
http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-clint...ump-688592
The conflict of interest is pretty undeniable. Drich overstates it as partisan people are wont to do, which is silly, because the actual truth is pretty egregious.
(October 19, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I expect him to march on orders from the Kremlin, at this point.
well thankfully comrade clinton is not in office meaning we do not have to march to orders from puttin.
(October 19, 2017 at 12:24 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(October 19, 2017 at 11:26 am)Drich Wrote: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/17/ha...nald-trump
Seems the clinton foundation received over 1,000,000 dollars in "speaking fees" in return Clinton as secretary of state sold or approved the sale of uranium to the Russians. not just a literal boat load but a percentage of everything the US had. Not only did Obama know of this he squashed any investigations into this deal by the department.
So the fake news seem to have it half right, there was governmental collusion, just accusing the wrong administration.
Every part of that is wrong.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/do..._hp_ref=uk
Quote:The falsehood remains a favourite of right-wing and conspiratorial websites who conveniently ignore that:
- Clinton did not have veto power over the deal as she was one of nine people involved on the panel that deals with such decisions
- Clinton may not have even been involved in the decision-making process as she “never intervened” on such matters
- Any uranium could not and has not been exported or given to Russia as it remains under the control of American subsidiaries, as stated by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
- Of the $145 million, most of it, $131.3 million, came from Frank Giustra who sold of his entire stake in Uranium One in 2007, 18 months before Clinton became Secretary of State and three years before the Russia deal
please the huffy post is fake news even to you lefties.. I also quote the nytime which trump is not a fan, and they supported the fox news article as well as did the washington post. and the news week fact check also places clinton as SS when she received her money (which was posted by one of uses guys)