Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,

[Captain_Nemo]

I think that it wouldn't do anything good! 
Well it is posible to lead the world in chaos but not something good will come out of it .

Hi everyone, just created an account.

Please forgive if I am not following some obvious rules. I should read some of the previous posts and all, I'm just bored and try to refine my views. I respect every person's views and believe that I myself am probably wrong at some place. I believe that thoughts differ in their quality like the hardness of material. The question is not wheather a certain thinking pattern is true or not, its just in what kind of language and coherence You can express it. In other words, I am a believer myself, but I do believe that a view can be expressed that could change that. Vice versa I am able to express views that could change a believer into an unbeliver. Words are just a simplification of reality and are bullshit in general in my opinion, worth using only then when all parties of a conversation seek truth as the most sacred good.


God is just a word. The existence of a word cannot be questioned, one would have to question the existence of reality in general to do that.
The definition of a word can change over time. The prime meaning of a word should be sought to understand the construct/context in which it was used. Certain words are used only to transmit meaning and are apart from that completely irrelevant. Its like in the story where they talk about catching the rabbit with a snare. As soon as it is cought the snare can be forgotten. Similarly with God - there is a certain meaning to be grasped within each religion once it is cought the verbal construct becomes unnecessary for the user and he will be able to generate the same meaning in his own words.

The problem is that wisdom is so valuable and powerful that its existence is prevented by all power structures. So if somebody manages to build a generator of wisdom with time it turns into a power structure itself and hence becomes a detracktor. It is better to leave the old structures standing so that future generations can understand what has been happening over the spectrum of 2020 years than to build new ones and to go through the same process again. 

The same thing happened to science, in its initial stage it allowed people to group together and generate wisdom. But with time it caused the building of schools that are the greatest generators of ignorance that have ever existed. 

Reformers have to use tools that have already been given by society. If Jesus were to live in a society that is based on different thinking patterns he would have probably conveyed his message in a different way. The question that should be asked is wheather the message should be applied.

The question asked at the beginning could be transfigured into:
"Lets say that tomorrow it will be proven that reality does not exist, meaning will fade"


There is this occurence on the field of language, which causes the meaning of words to change over time. A thousand years ago the word religion meant something completely different than it means today. The strive of religion is to create enthusiam (en theo - means in God = in accord with reality = meaningful existence) Hence the point of religion is to generate behaviours that turn life into a meaningful adventure.


What also has to be added is that the overall level of thinking detoriated dramatically over the last 70 years. This is due to the amount of detracktors that exist in today's society. In the middle ages the amount of time given for thinking and idling was much greater than people have today. This can also be seen by how philosophy is treated. I mean who wants to become a philosopher?


The biggest mistake is when people argue instead of building inside of them. 
The discussion around God and his existence or nonexistence usually don't bear any good fruits. 
It's similiar to wheather I should personify my dog or not. You can call him a name and treat him similarly to a person or You could treat him like a biological machine or object. The same goes for reality its just a matter of choice wheather I chose to personify reality. A choice has consequences, one should just be aware of the implications.