(October 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 26, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: This is what I'll never understand. How do you get from the recognition of our own inadequacy to see and know everything -> to the position of knowing that there is something you call God which can do so? There would seem to be lots of room between seeing and knowing more than we can to all, omni- everything? How can any human being know that? Of course you can all agree that the God you all worship is the ultimate, know-everything, mega/omni-most being of beings if you like. But it will always beg the question: how do you know any such thing exists? Well, you don't .. but you've decided to have faith on it.
I don't think xtians are any where near humble enough in the claims you make.
There are several reasons why I believe God exists, which I've talked about on these forums before. I could be wrong, of course, but I am of the strong opinion that He does exist.
What I was saying is that I think it's silly to say "A good God doesn't exist because if He did exist He would do this and that, and the world wouldn't be this way, etc".... because its like, how do we know things aren't as they should be because they make sense in the big picture when we're only experiencing a tiny piece of it?
Not believing in God is understandable. I just don't think what i describe above is a sensible argument against the possibility of a good God.
Yeah, I don't care about the arguments about all the ways God allows people to suffer. Of course, I can't begin to imagine such a thing existing at all so I just don't go on to worry about why He allows evil in the world He is supposed to have created.
I just don't know how you and other believers go from "works in strange and wonderful ways" to limitless knowledge and power and created everything from nothing. I mean wouldn't it be more humble to just say knowledge of God is beyond us and therefore a mystery. You can continue to count your relationship with God as being important but then just admit you don't know just how omni-anything He is -let alone how He came to be or exactly what role He may of had in creation. To my way of thinking that would be true faith, revering God but accepting His mysterious ways as beyond our pay grade.
But I just always feel like I can ask you about these things when they come up without you getting mad or feeling threatened. Glad you're here.
