(October 27, 2017 at 5:15 am)Captain_Nemo Wrote:(October 26, 2017 at 4:46 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I think you're new here so first of all welcome. But can you summarize a point from this post. I read it but wasn't sure what you were trying to say. "Truth" is simply the correspondence between something expressed with language and the way things actually are in the world. I have no idea what significance you are attaching to "the truth". Every proposition that correctly maps to the world is "a" truth. Which proposition(s) are you referring to when you use the expression "the truth", and why?
The difference between "a" and "the" would lie in the scope of observation.
THE truth would fit reality/the big picture - always be true - like 2+2 is always 4. Only GOD could have generated THE truth in regards to things like human nature, the point of existence.
A truth fits only under certain circumstances.
This is also one of those things that made me a believer. Since reality is a self-explanatory paradox, where grasping all elements is impossible because of the size of the big picture - if somebody were to be able to build rules that always fit we could assume that his way of seeing is better than other humans. We can check the connection between a few elements and see how they fit together. With Jesus its different. Its like a guy came from somewhere who was able to say something that no matter how much You try to disprove - it always fits into this thing called reality.
Well thanks for trying but "self explanatory paradox" translates to hokum. You've no more established the existence of a class of truth necessitating "the" instead of "a" than you have a class of phenomenon so far beyond the natural as to deserve the supernatural category.
Of course some truths are more important to us in a personal way than are others. The exact age of our rapid transit system is less dear to me than the fact of the affection I feel for my wife. I personally have no trouble accepting that you feel great affection for the god with whom you've been encouraged to develop a relationship. My only objection is to the ham handed ways that believers attempt to shoe horn Him into the world. He is its creator but entirely undetectable. Entirely beyond our understanding and yet you think you've taken His measure: knowledge = omni; power = omni; age = eternal; goodness = omni; and so on.
Believers extoll humility and yet they are incapable of admitting their own inability to wrap their heads around this mystery they call 'God'. If you all were honest and humble enough to admit He is a mystery and then had the courage of your convictions to maintain faith anyway, you would earn more respect from many of us. It is because you place your faith instead in the cold hard facts provided by the contract with god you call the bible that you so often wind up ridiculous in our eyes.
If you're here looking for suckers for Christ you're wasting your time.
