(October 26, 2017 at 10:56 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(October 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are several reasons why I believe God exists, which I've talked about on these forums before. I could be wrong, of course, but I am of the strong opinion that He does exist.
What I was saying is that I think it's silly to say "A good God doesn't exist because if He did exist He would do this and that, and the world wouldn't be this way, etc".... because its like, how do we know things aren't as they should be because they make sense in the big picture when we're only experiencing a tiny piece of it?
Not believing in God is understandable. I just don't think what i describe above is a sensible argument against the possibility of a good God.
Yeah, I don't care about the arguments about all the ways God allows people to suffer. Of course, I can't begin to imagine such a thing existing at all so I just don't go on to worry about why He allows evil in the world He is supposed to have created.
I just don't know how you and other believers go from "works in strange and wonderful ways" to limitless knowledge and power and created everything from nothing. I mean wouldn't it be more humble to just say knowledge of God is beyond us and therefore a mystery. You can continue to count your relationship with God as being important but then just admit you don't know just how omni-anything He is -let alone how He came to be or exactly what role He may of had in creation. To my way of thinking that would be true faith, revering God but accepting His mysterious ways as beyond our pay grade.
But I just always feel like I can ask you about these things when they come up without you getting mad or feeling threatened. Glad you're here.
You are correct that of course we should admit that there is a lot about God we don't know and don't even have the capacity to comprehend. We should also admit that even though we believe strongly, there is always a possibility that we could be wrong about Him existing at all. So you are correct on that, sorry if I gave the impression that I feel otherwise.
Believing in the Christian God, thpugh, means believing that certain things about Him have been divinely revealed to us through Christ. So while we don't even come close to claiming to know everything about God, we do believe we know some things - like that He is all good, that He is love, that He is infinite, the Father of creation, etc.
I don't see it as "unhumble" to believe that. It's just what we believe in, you know?
And yeah, I'm not mad or threatened.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh