(October 27, 2017 at 12:44 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(October 27, 2017 at 12:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I googled around for the tumor miracle. Looks like there's a lot of conflicting reports.
The story goes that she was being seen by doctors for a mass/tumor in her abdomen caused by some kind of infection secondary to tuberculosis. Apparently her belly was distended because of it. This much seems to be confirmed.
She said she was still not getting well despite medical treatments (which consisted of antibiotics she took for almost a year), and on the anniversary day of Mother Theresa's death, still feeling extremely sick, she was helped to a church where they prayed for Mother's intercession and rubbed a medal over her distended belly. She fell asleep and when she woke up her belly was flat and the pain was completely gone, never to return again.
Apparently three doctors did decline to testify for a miracle (as you said), but there were supposedly other doctors who treated her who did back up her claims. She was set up for surgery to remove the tumor but was too sick to be put under general anesthesia so she never went through with it.
Her husband initially called it a hoax but later said he believes it was a miracle, which I found odd.
Anyway, I'm not sure what to think of this one. On one hand she was receiving antibiotics for a long time, on the other hand it seems odd that she'd be cured so suddenly overnight, precisely because she as getting treated for so long and apparently not getting better. And it is interesting that she'd be cured on the exact anniversary day of the saint she prayed to, but that could just be a crazy coincidence. I'd have to get an explanation from the church investigators as to why they don't think this overnight cure was medically possible. As of now I'm not entirely convinced.
I looked through several articles about this, but these were the two that stuck out to me most:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi...0bc2086e86
and video: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-in...-my-tumour
What do you think? Do you think she could be lying or exaggerating a bit?
Exaggerating? Absolutely. The woman's personal story about what happens is just about worthless when it comes to determining how she recovered, because she has absolutely no medical knowledge - she's just saying what she felt and giving her opinions on what sort of supernatural stuff she thinks caused it. Meanwhile, the doctors who actually treated her (from your article)
Quote:have long maintained that Besra had been suffering from a cyst, not a cancerous tumor. The doctors have said she recovered after she received tuberculosis treatment for several months at a government hospital in Balurghat, about 270 miles north of the city where Mother Teresa spent decades ministering to the destitute and dying.
“I’ve said several times that she was cured by the treatment, and nothing has happened,” one of the doctors involved, Ranjan Mustafi, said in a brief telephone interview.
No offense to the lady, but I'll take the medical interpretation and diagnosis from the doctors over her own. And the others involved in her medial treatment that apparently came forward to support it being a miracle?
Quote:Catholic Bishop Salvatore Lobo, who chaired the local committee that investigated Besra’s case for the Vatican, said they repeatedly asked Mustafi and the two others to testify but they never appeared. Meanwhile, he said, several other doctors involved in her treatment confirmed Besra’s version of events. He declined to provide their names.
So they definitely have medical professionals related to the case that support it being a miracle...they just won't give their names. Convenient.
And I can't find anything about the husband recanting his skepticism of the event - could you provide me a source for that?
If you're asking my opinion, I think it's pretty glaringly obvious that she was cured by medical science - as agreed upon by every named person involved in this case except for her. Regardless, if you're still on the fence, then this still must not qualify as "ruling out every other possible explanation" and certainly can't be called a miracle.
EDIT: ugh, text formatting.. too lazy to fix the fonts.
Yes, Dr Mustafi was one of the 3 doctors who declined to testify for a miracle. He went public with this case so I assume that's why we have his name and not the names of the other 2 who declined or the ones who participated?
Unless there's something I'm missing, I'm not convinced that this can be called a miracle. I'd have to hear an argument as to why they don't think her tumor could be cured due to the antibiotics. If what Dr Mustafi is saying is true, there should be medical records detailing her recovery and her decreasing tumor.
As for the husband recanting his skepticism, the article actually said that at the end:
Quote:Although he once told reporters he believed his wife recovered after medical treatment, he now says he was misquoted.
“It happened due to the blessings of Mother Teresa,” he said. “She prayed a long time to her. I went to many doctors and she was not getting well. After that day, she was cured.”
He also mentioned it on this article:
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/a-ray-cu...le-1454054
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh