RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
October 27, 2017 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2017 at 1:40 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
(October 27, 2017 at 1:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 27, 2017 at 12:44 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Exaggerating? Absolutely. The woman's personal story about what happens is just about worthless when it comes to determining how she recovered, because she has absolutely no medical knowledge - she's just saying what she felt and giving her opinions on what sort of supernatural stuff she thinks caused it. Meanwhile, the doctors who actually treated her (from your article)
No offense to the lady, but I'll take the medical interpretation and diagnosis from the doctors over her own. And the others involved in her medial treatment that apparently came forward to support it being a miracle?
So they definitely have medical professionals related to the case that support it being a miracle...they just won't give their names. Convenient.
And I can't find anything about the husband recanting his skepticism of the event - could you provide me a source for that?
If you're asking my opinion, I think it's pretty glaringly obvious that she was cured by medical science - as agreed upon by every named person involved in this case except for her. Regardless, if you're still on the fence, then this still must not qualify as "ruling out every other possible explanation" and certainly can't be called a miracle.
EDIT: ugh, text formatting.. too lazy to fix the fonts.
Yes, Dr Mustafi was one of the 3 doctors who declined to testify for a miracle. He went public with this case so I assume that's why we have his name and not the names of the other 2 who declined or the ones who participated?
Unless there's something I'm missing, I'm not convinced that this can be called a miracle. I'd have to hear an argument as to why they don't think her tumor could be cured due to the antibiotics. If what Dr Mustafi is saying is true, there should be medical records detailing her recovery and her decreasing tumor.
As for the husband recanting his skepticism, the article actually said that at the end:
Quote:Although he once told reporters he believed his wife recovered after medical treatment, he now says he was misquoted.
“It happened due to the blessings of Mother Teresa,” he said. “She prayed a long time to her. I went to many doctors and she was not getting well. After that day, she was cured.”
He also mentioned it on this article:
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/a-ray-cu...le-1454054
Thanks for the note on the husband, must've missed that. I just find it weird that the church wouldn't put forth their evidence clearly and openly if it's indeed conclusive - that would be a much better counter to the skeptics than their current model, if they want more people to accept the truth.
And they had medical records, but they were confiscated by the Missionaries of Charity. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...89,00.html
Quote:Monica's medical records contain sonograms, prescriptions and physicians' notes that could conceivably help prove whether science or the icon worked the cure. But the records are missing. Monica says Sister Betta of the Missionaries of Charity took them away two years ago. "It's all with her," says Monica. A call to Sister Betta, who has been reassigned to another post of the Charity, produced a "no comment."
And please note that throughout this, her doctors said she was responding to treatment - it wasn't just an overnight sudden "no more tumor!" poof disappearing thing.
I'm glad that you say you're unconvinced that this is a miracle. Just understand that your unconvinced...ness, is how I view all of the miracle claims that have been put forth (so far). I find their claims and evidence equally as weak and circumstantial as this one. Many times even weaker than this one, if all we have is hearsay and eyewitness accounts, which are infamously inaccurate and fallible.
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