(October 27, 2017 at 12:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 27, 2017 at 11:11 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Bolded mine - that's pretty much what I was getting at, yeah. If one can't definitively prove that there is no other explanation, then one is not justified in citing god as a cause, and unjustified in calling it a miracle.
I don't really agree that its completely harmless though, since any misinformation or support for a flawed way of thinking or making decisions is undesirable in and of itself, in my opinion, and could be the basis for flawed thinking in making other decisions as well. But that's a discussion for another time.
Just on the tumor miracle - the doctors said her recovery was nothing abnormal and followed the expected response to treatment that they'd done before - not a single one of the medical staff responded to the Vatican's call for someone to support it as a miracle. That's just the most blatant one that comes to my mind, I'm sure other people are more informed on other miracles.
I googled around for the tumor miracle. Looks like there's a lot of conflicting reports.
The story goes that she was being seen by doctors for a mass/tumor in her abdomen caused by some kind of infection secondary to tuberculosis. Apparently her belly was distended because of it. This much seems to be confirmed.
She said she was still not getting well despite medical treatments (which consisted of antibiotics she took for almost a year), and on the anniversary day of Mother Theresa's death, still feeling extremely sick, she was helped to a church where they prayed for Mother's intercession and rubbed a medal over her distended belly. She fell asleep and when she woke up her belly was flat and the pain was completely gone, never to return again.
Apparently three doctors did decline to testify for a miracle (as you said), but there were supposedly other doctors who treated her who did back up her claims. She was set up for surgery to remove the tumor but was too sick to be put under general anesthesia so she never went through with it.
Her husband initially called it a hoax but later said he believes it was a miracle, which I found odd.
Anyway, I'm not sure what to think of this one. On one hand she was receiving antibiotics for a long time, on the other hand it seems odd that she'd be cured so suddenly overnight, precisely because she as getting treated for so long and apparently not getting better. And it is interesting that she'd be cured on the exact anniversary day of the saint she prayed to, but that could just be a crazy coincidence. I'd have to get an explanation from the church investigators as to why they don't think this overnight cure was medically possible. As of now I'm not entirely convinced.
I looked through several articles about this, but these were the two that stuck out to me most:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi...0bc2086e86
and video: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-in...-my-tumour
What do you think? Do you think she could be lying or exaggerating a bit?
So because she's catlick you accept the same story you wouldn't accept from "orange juice cures AIDS" woo website, or an anti-vaxxer "my daughter got autism two months after her older brother was vaccinated, the vaccines caused it" story? Says much about your credulousness.
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