RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
October 30, 2017 at 3:39 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2017 at 4:15 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 30, 2017 at 12:12 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: You say that satisfaction is a positive emotion which you are implying to be the rational value judgments themselves. I don't think that is true. I don't think rational value judgments themselves can be any positive or negative emotion in our lives.
How, then, do you explain feelings of adequacy or inadequacy..and their attendant emotional states, based upon our various value judgements as they relate to self? It certainly seems to be the case that a logical, or internally logical value judgement can at least be the cognitive origin of a positive or negative emotional state.
Much ink and angst has been spent on the subject, which you seem to blithely disregard here even as this entire thread might be taken to be indicative of a great deal of emotional response caused by your own internal logic and value judgement...specifically as it relates to yourself.
You seem to believe that you (and all of us) have a great many reasons to feel bad. While I wouldn't characterize all of them as rational, I'm certain that they serve a psuedo rational purpose or qualify as rational in your mind. The statement, above, that these value judgements cannot be the emotional goods seems to be at odds with your own position..and, frankly, your entire posting history on these boards. So perhaps you should clarify exactly how you plan to affect happy thoughts by positive thinking about happy thoughts, if such a clear delineation between the two can be asserted? If value judgement cannot be the goods, how will these many pages of value judgement provide the same goods? Is the value judgement that you are worthless, or worthwhile, not simultaneously and accurately described as a good or bad emotion? Is it common for people with feelings and/or rationalizations of worthlessness to be happy, or unhappy, in your opinion?
Are "empty words" and "real good value" fluid metrics which can be determined solely by your emotional state, or does the use of these terms explicitly reference an overarching schema to which your emotional states conform? Why is the one better than the other? Which, of the two, makes you happy, and which makes you unhappy? Why..and, if you can answer the question of why, isn't it at least possible that whatever logic (internal or otherwise) that you give could either be the cause of the emotional state or even a fuller description of the emotional state itself..including it's cognitive underpinnings? These are the questions.
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