(November 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My point is we make educated guesses all the time. Just because there is no concrete proof of something doesn't automatically mean we should discard it as a possibility. Believing in the existence of the supernatural is no different.
As far as the origin of the universe is concerned:
1. We don't have proof that there are certain things in the natural/physical world that have always existed or that can spontaneously start existing from nothing. In fact, we only have proof to the contrary. Things in the physical natural world have a beginning and come from something else.
2. We also don't have proof that there exists anything beyond the natural physical world which would defy these laws of nature - aka, the supernatural.
If you say , you're basically conceding that something in the natural physical world either has always existed or spontaneously came to exist, even though there is no proof that either of this can happen.
If you say "obviously there is more beyond our natural physical world that is not bound by the laws of nature", you're taking a position that also has no proof.
Either way, you're making some sort of guess that is not based on concrete evidence.
I wouldn't say that "there absolutely is nothing beyond our natural physical world". I wouldn't say there is absolutely no god, but there is no reason to entertain the idea of god or the supernatural with no objective, testable evidence. And there is absolutely no evidence of that kind. And there can be no educated guess without any evidence.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
