RE: What would you do if you found out God existed
November 2, 2017 at 8:27 am
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2017 at 8:30 am by Captain_Nemo.)
(November 2, 2017 at 7:56 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:(November 2, 2017 at 3:58 am)Captain_Nemo Wrote: Faith means just that You understand that there are bits of information that cannot be comprehended at once.
Compare it to downloading lots of files that have been divided and packed in winrar. Unless You download all files of a given set, then extract it, then install it - and then the program can be run. Faith is the believe that if You follow certain instructions the end effect will be as promised.
Ahh, another definition of "faith".
Confidence in what we know exists and confidence in in similar outcomes from prior observations is not faith. It in no way is related to belief without evidence.
(November 2, 2017 at 3:58 am)Captain_Nemo Wrote: You have to remember that the greatest gift of existence is the possibility of love. Try to imagine what happens if You force somebody to love something or somebody else. Does that work? Free will is so important because of that reason. The value of love is so great that even allowing billions of idiots to exist is worth it (God gave people the potential for wisdom, and still they chose ignorance - but if it were to be forced upon them, love could not occur, since it can only exist under the conditions of free will). Love cannot be bought and requires lots of time to learn, but brings great reward to those who care to find out what it is.
Yada yada yada. Please, tell us more about this thing called "love"...
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It's as if there was a branch of knowledge like mathematics and You do not want to use numbers as they have been used for centuries, because You call arabic number faries, insisting that only Your system of numeration, that is in no way better is the only right one.
It does not matter if You say x=2 or z=2 if a function is expressed as y=ax+b or y=az+b and x=z.
Or if somebody where to express an idea in German You would not dare say that the idea is wrong just because it was expressed in a different language.
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It's disgrace for the human species, we are just falling.
We are failing, partly because people equate mythology with facts, emotional reactions with truth and choosing feeling good over critical thinking. That, and greed.
But You would not call greeks idiots because they were using myths.
Most people are not able to read Plato or Aristotle.
The myth about Prometheus is still valid today. Look at something like the Prometheus society - why are people whose IQ oscillates around 200 using a mythological figure. Isn't it obvious that when ideas are expressed one should try to grasp the meaning anew each time a sentence is decoded and not just create a stereotype that all ideas that are expressed with a given word do not make sense.
This is basic about any language.
The problem is that anything given in reality should be used with a benefit. Destroying something just because we do not like it is unproductive and leaves a vacuum where worse things usually take the place of the previous entity. So its not about wheather religion is bad or good, but how to interact with it to make the intercation beneficial to the user. The user himself has to teach himself to make this interaction work in this way.
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What is common today is the thought, that any idea that is expressed in a sentence contaning the word God in it is rubbish.
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But if You look at this kind of behaviour from the view point of informatinal warfare it makes perfect sense. Just teach the younger generation to use different vocabulary, convince them that the old vocabulary is stupid no matter how it is being used and You create a generational gap. If You take into account that divide and conquer is the simplest idea of empowerment of one's own faction one can understand why it is so common, with multicultural societies dominating.
What is really scary, is how difficult it is to explain to anybody what is really happening. People think that existence is a safe place although we never really abandoned the law of the jungle. The most dangerous things are not the things that can kill You, but those that can hack Your mind and reprogramm it at will.
Even if Satan were not real (although I think he is) it's still better to be careful about what kind of thoughts are getting into one's mind and from what sources.
It does not matter if a person or spiritual entity wants to make a slave out of me. The necessary defense mechanism is exactly the same.
