(November 2, 2017 at 3:58 am)Captain_Nemo Wrote: Faith means just that You understand that there are bits of information that cannot be comprehended at once.
That's just nuts, how can you understand what cannot be comprehended ?
Quote:Compare it to downloading lots of files that have been divided and packed in winrar. Unless You download all files of a given set, then extract it, then install it - and then the program can be run. Faith is the believe that if You follow certain instructions the end effect will be as promised.
But that process can be explain and demonstrated and you can also find many people who can demonstrate it to you, it really is an awful example and comparison of faith in the unknown and unexplainable.
Quote:Hell
Objective reality exists.
Because we are being lied to most of the time actions are taken that are not in accord with objective reality.
We build a thing called ego based on those actions - who we believe we are.
After death we get to know objective reality - and then hell is the act of self-condemnation that occurs because of the contrast of who we think we are and what we really are.
Yet another unfounded interpretation on a theme. Unless you are simply saying we disappoint ourselves, or that we think of ourselves more highly than we should.
Quote:Imagine it like thinking You're a diamond, for whatever reason and later You get to look into a mirror and find out that You are less than a little piece of dirt.
Not being able to stand Your own view and runnning into a loop in which You try to keep up the diamond lie, would be as I believe hell to work. The first error given in the catholic catechism is pride. Pride implies a swollen ego etc. All other errors will have their own implications.
So are you saying we make ourselves feel bad ? is so then say so don't muddle it up with a mythical place called hell.
Quote:You have to remember that the greatest gift of existence is the possibility of love. Try to imagine what happens if You force somebody to love something or somebody else. Does that work? Free will is so important because of that reason. The value of love is so great that even allowing billions of idiots to exist is worth it (God gave people the potential for wisdom, and still they chose ignorance - but if it were to be forced upon them, love could not occur, since it can only exist under the conditions of free will). Love cannot be bought and requires lots of time to learn, but brings great reward to those who care to find out what it is.
Well we can't force people to love other people, least not in any intuitive way but I am interested in your free will qualifier, can you explain what you mean by free will?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
