(August 13, 2011 at 11:22 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote:(August 5, 2011 at 7:54 pm)C Rod Wrote: That's the answer i always get, from somebody like you. I was hoping something more wonderful or different, something inspiring and vulnerable, something to be considered. Since your a man of observation, may i ask you what is perfect; what thing can you prove to me is perfect?Science is the best way yet invented by humans in verifying the truth from things we would like to be true, but aren't. It doesn't make any claim about being wonderful, inspiring, vulnerable etc. You would need to go to more philosophical discussions around aesthetics for that. But meanwhile while your tip- tapping on your PC just remember that it was discoveries in quantum mechanics, electricity, material science that led you to have a PC at all. And whilst you may wish to poke fun at scientific endeavors it is the same standard that led to those discoveries being applied to all scientific endeavours be it evolution or abiogenesis. The things we have never seen in science is a god, or a heaven, or a hand descending from the sky zapping rabbits into instant being. Of course there could be an immaterial, invisible, ineffable, unknowable all perfect super thing out there ( which is simultaneously has a mind more complex than the universe but is also the simplest being possible) playing hide and seek with us and always winning. Or and it may be a bit mundane we live in a universe without such a creature and we are biological scum on the surface of an ordinary planet, wheeling it's way around an ordinary main sequence star. Whilst you may find that an unappealing vision, there is no evidence at all for your wish thinking and an awful lot of evidence which contradicts it. So if you want to play silly games about things like perfection, go for it. You believe there is a perfect god, prove that that god can exist deductively and inductively...the floor is yours
I liked your response it held different ideas. I just think the acceptance of just science as truth is boring.
If i could prove that God was real we wouldn't be talking right now but you would be acknowledging that God against your will simply because he was real and you would be punished kinda like the laws and judicial system.
But i want to know sense science is the answer, than why don't the newspapers and tele proclaim its proof that is all powerful and everything else is a lie. That if knowledge is going to fix the problem, then we cant let the parents that preach teach there kids what they know. You must stop this or it will always be the the same. Unless...
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
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