RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 1:20 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 1:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 9, 2017 at 12:49 pm)pool the matey Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 12:30 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: That’s a good idea. You should try it sometime. Start with the archaeological evidence for the exodus.
Have fun.
Okay, so does "your side" have all the evidence as well? Actually it doesn't. A lot of evidence is still being found. A lack of evidence doesn't mean anything.
I thought we already went over this? Promises of evidence tomorrow demonstrate nothing today. A lack of evidence, for example that a massive gaggle of jews wandered the desert for 40 years...means that you have no credible justification for claiming that they did, nor does magic book. To be completely blunt..with regards to this specific proposition...a lack of evidence, means that they demonstrably didn't.
We've been able to find evidence of trails used by, at most, a few dozen people over the course of centuries in the same areas that this mythical horde of hebrews is said to have wandered. We can see these minor foot trails...from space. No evidence, however, of any exodus.
This, ofc, is just one avenue of evidence. Genetic sampling and advances in document recovery have given us a more accurate picture of the origins of isreal and judah, and it stands in stark contrast to the establishment myth presented in the OT.
So..no, we don;t have "all the evidence"...but we do have enough to say with certainly that you have none, and that what magic book tells you is true, simply is not and never was.
Now, the position of academics in this regard, is that exodus is not history. That certainly seems to align with the facts of the matter. More specifically, they posit that it was never intended to be history, but..rather " to demonstrate God's acts in history through Israel's bondage, salvation and covenant.". Which, I guess might sound nice, but it;s completely incoherent if there -were- none of those acts of god in that history. The text, even as a religious claim, reduces to a religious platitude.
As a narrative, all that can be drawn from it is that bondage and oppression is suffering and injustice. Well, no shit, but this was not a lesson that the jews appeared to have learned even from the story..nor their later christian contemporaries...as many west africans could have attested to a few short centuries ago...nor that modern day kkkristians seem to uniformly endorse, or that believing but non-religious apathetics manage to grasp. Even as useful fiction, it has failed at every step, and will likely fail again.
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