RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 9, 2017 at 2:01 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Well then prove it, but sure, I'll do it again and again until you're hoarse for screaming "nuh uh!".Already did.
Quote:Name one situation where subjecting something that doesn't claim it is a scientific work or doesn't claim that it can withstand scientific scrutiny to scientific scrutiny is acceptable?If you're going to simply reassert yourself when presented with one example that completely discredits the premise, why should I expect that to change when I got around to the hundredth example, the thousandth..the millionth?
Fact of the matter is, it only takes one, and you've been provided with it. Magic book qualifies as a second example...and it;s what you're bickering about to begin with, so you have that too. Do you need 98 more? 998? 999998?
Quote:That's a bad analogy because unless someone makes a scientific claim that arsenic laced jelly beans cure cancer and claims that their claim can withstand scientific scrutiny nobody will even bother to do a scientific research to show that they are wrong.Who says they made a scientific claim? They made a claim in advertising..they might even explicitly state in fine print that the claim has not been subjected to any scrutiny whatsoever and is not based upon any specific trial or research data. They often do, for legal reasons. Nevertheless, the claim is subject to scientific scrutiny because it's the kind of claim that science can test, can weigh in on.
Quote:If on the flip side some group of researchers just decided to create evidence for why "arsenic laced jelly beans cure cancer" is wrong without anyone ever making such a claim it would be meaningless. Likewise, nowhere in the Bible it claims it is a scientific work or that it can withstand scientific scrutiny so it's a claim that they haven't made, if a group of people decided to show that Bible isn't scientifically correct then it just doesn't make any sense because that claim was not made in the first place.It doesn't matter that the authors of the bible don't claim it to be a scientific treatise..and this..Pool..is the silliest meta argument I've ever heard. How would they make such a claim..they didn't know what science was. They did, however, make a mountain of claims subject to scientific scrutiny. The kinds of claims that science can test, can weigh in on. It has. They are false.
Your premise...Pool...is demonstrably unsound, and your conclusion does not follow from your premises regardless. An argument can't be more flawed than that. It fails every relevant criteria for an argument.
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