Changing ones mind about a subject

[Edwardo Piet]

I am not so sure . . . people can feel they lost a debate but I think that's different from actually changing your mind or being able to see where your own logic is wrong. If you're capable of seeing your logical argument is invalid why would you make it in the first place? And if you made it dishonestly then you didn't even believe your argument was valid in the first place, you were using a fallacious argument on purpose to try and win a debate and you only admitted you were wrong when it became clear to your opponent that your argument was fallacious. If someone isn't logical enough to see their argument is fallacious then how can they be shown that it's fallacious?